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		<title>&#8220;Something Fresh Out of Something Stale&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Chadwick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, Mashing Up MoLit Redux: Redux
This past September, in response to Ken&#8217;s post about mashing up Mormon literature and the purposes behind the repurposing of language and literature, in general, Ardis asked a question that turned my wheels a-spinnin&#8217;. Asked she, &#8220;[W]hat’s the point of being deliberately, unrelentingly unoriginal&#8221; by taking others&#8217; work, repurposing it, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Or, Mashing Up MoLit Redux: Redux</b></p>
<p>This past September, in response to <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2011/mashing-molit-redux/">Ken&#8217;s post about mashing up Mormon literature and the purposes behind the repurposing of language and literature, in general</a>, Ardis asked a question that turned my wheels a-spinnin&#8217;. Asked she, &#8220;[W]hat’s the point of being deliberately, unrelentingly unoriginal&#8221; by taking others&#8217; work, repurposing it, and sending it out into the world? &#8220;Why is suppressing the urge toward originality,&#8221; as she assumes mash-up arists do, &#8220;more conducive to self-expression than the effort to, you know, actually be self-expressive?&#8221; </p>
<p>Seuss-style, I respond to Ardis&#8217; question with three things (I was going to add my comment to the post itself, but my response grew beyond comment-length; hence, this): </p>
<p><b>Thing One:</b> I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s productive to argue that all mash-ups or remixes suppress the urge toward originality and self-expression. I&#8217;m thinking here of seven instances&#8212;four specific and three more general, though even as I think I stir up more instances&#8212;in which artists/creators have, to various degrees, remixed different aspects of culture or other preexisting materials in order to create something new:<span id="more-6097"></span></p>
<p>a. God, who didn&#8217;t create anything <i>ex nihilo</i>, but who remixed extant materials in order to build universes, galaxies, worlds, us. And who&#8217;s going to call God unoriginal?</p>
<p>b. Quentin Tarantino&#8217;s <i>Kill Bill</i> (among other works) in which he&#8217;s &#8220;borrowed&#8221; compositional elements, plot lines, bits of dialogue, costumes, etc., from a range of films to &#8220;piece&#8221; together his own story. Here&#8217;s a video that details some of these &#8220;borrowings.&#8221; (<b>Caution:</b> contains some graphic scenes).</p>
<p><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/19469447?portrait=0" width="500" height="315" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen allowFullScreen></iframe><P ALIGN=Center><a href="http://vimeo.com/19469447">Everything Is A Remix: KILL BILL</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/robgwilson">robgwilson.com</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>c. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_Talk_(musician)">Greg Michael Gillis (aka Girl Talk)</a>, a musician who specializes in mashups and digital sampling. Here&#8217;s a video that illustrates his creative process, wherein he &#8220;borrows&#8221; a small bit of music (in this case a second or so of an Elvis Costello song) and manipulates it in various ways in order to construct a new, shall we call it, <i>original</i> song:</p>
<p><iframe width="500" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KykbPtRb0K4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><P ALIGN=Center><a href="http://youtu.be/KykbPtRb0K4">Girl Talk Creates a Mashup</a> from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/OpenSourceCinema">OpenSourceCinema</a> on <a href="http://youtube.com">YouTube</a>.</p>
<p>Girl Talk has a huge following and is the subject of a really interesting documentary called <a href="http://ripremix.com/"><i>RiP: A Remix Manifesto</i>.</a> For anyone interested, the film&#8217;s available in parts on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdwN6rRU0Xk&#038;feature=results_main&#038;playnext=1&#038;list=PL44F4EBDBE6879CE5">YouTube</a> and in full on <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/88782/rip-a-remix-manifesto">Hulu.</a> It&#8217;s a really interesting exploration of the issues surrounding mashups, including copyright laws and creativity. I especially like its opening line: &#8220;Today we&#8217;re going to create a mashup, a fun and adventurous way to create something fresh out of something stale.&#8221;</p>
<p>d. <a href="http://mistertimdotcom.com/">Mister Tim</a>, who in his live-looping act not only mashes himself up against himself, but who also &#8220;covers&#8221; and mashes up songs from other arists as well in order to entertain audiences. I&#8217;ve embedded an example below. <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2011/cupcakes-can-kill-you-an-interview-with-mister-tim-in-two-parts/">Mister Tim has appeared on AMV before</a>, courtesy of mash-up lover Laura.</p>
<p><iframe width="500" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ng3b2C6MAsM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><P ALIGN=Center><a href="http://youtu.be/Ng3b2C6MAsM">Mister Tim Live-Looping SWEET DREAMS (medley): 2009 Las Vegas A Cappella Summit</a> from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/MisterTimVids">MisterTimVids</a> on <a href="http://youtube.com">YouTube</a>.</p>
<p>e. Found poems, which &#8220;take existing texts and refashion them, reorder them, and present them as poems. The literary equivalent of a collage, found poetry is often made from newspaper articles, street signs, graffiti, speeches, letters, or even other poems.&#8221; This poetic form became prominent in the twentieth-century, in the shadow of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_art">Pop Art</a> (think Andy Warhol and Marcel Duchamp) (<a href="http://www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/5780">ref</a>). </p>
<p>In 1995, Pulitzer Prize-winning author Annie Dillard published a collection of found poems called <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mornings-Like-This-Found-Poems/dp/0060927259"><i>Mornings Like This</i></a>. In the Author&#8217;s Note, she suggests, as I have here, that found poems are &#8220;the literary equivalents of Warhol&#8217;s Campbell&#8217;s soup cans and Duchamp&#8217;s bicycle,&#8221; then she offers up something about what a poet does when s/he remixes existing texts into poetry: &#8220;By entering a found text as a poem, the poet doubles its context. The original meaning remains intact, but now it swings between two poles,&#8221; between it&#8217;s non-remixed function and it&#8217;s remixed function, wherein &#8220;[t]he poet adds,&#8221; she continues, &#8220;or at any rate increases, the element of delight. This is an urban, youthful, ironic, cruising kind of poetry. It serves up whole texts [to readers], or uninterrupted fragments of texts,&#8221; in the form and language of poetry (ix). So found poetry is ironic poetry, poetry conceived of and meant to critique, even overturn, the ironies of an ironic age. Dillard&#8217;s conclusion to her Note is telling in this regard, &#8220;This [book] is [the result of] editing at its extreme: writing without composing. Half the poems seek to serve poetry&#8217;s oldest and most sincere aims&#8221;&#8212;to create an aesthetic experience of human life and to give readers pleasure in language being perhaps two of them&#8212;&#8221;with one of its newest and most ironic methods, to dig deep with a shallow tool. The other half&#8221; of the poems, she says, &#8220;are just jokes&#8221; (x).</p>
<p>One of Dillard&#8217;s poems, &#8220;The Sign of Your Father,&#8221; seems apropos to our current context: discussing the artistic uses, reuses, and recycling of religious texts; the religious uses of art and culture. Here&#8217;s the poem (the epigraph cites its original context):</p>
<a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Dillard_Sign-of-Your-Father_Small.png"><img src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Dillard_Sign-of-Your-Father_Small.png" alt="Annie Dillard&#039;s &quot;The Sign of Your Father&quot;" title="Annie Dillard&#039;s &quot;The Sign of Your Father&quot;" width="500" height="441" class="size-full wp-image-6306" /></a><P ALIGN=Center><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mornings-Like-This-Found-Poems/dp/0060927259">(From <i>Mornings Like This</i>, p. 8-9.)</a></p>
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<p>In her Author&#8217;s Note, Dillard comments briefly on one function of this remixed text (the religious nature and implications of which she seems especially critical):</p>
<blockquote><p>The New Testament Apocrypha is a loose collection of written legends and, chiefly, torn and damaged fragments. Scholar-editors print such texts carefully to show&#8212;using ellipses and question marks&#8212;where fragments break off and which translations are guesses. An edition of the New Testament Apocrypha yields a poem ["The Sign of Your Father"] about the baffling quality of Christ&#8217;s utterances and the absurdly fragmentary nature of spiritual knowledge. Like many of these poems, it looks surprisingly sober on the page. (x)</p></blockquote>
<p>f. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral-formulaic_composition">The oral-formulaic composition of epic poetry,</a> wherein (the theory goes) poets like Homer and contemporary Serbo-Croatian poets drew/draw from a stockpile of formulas (including phrases and symbols) as aids to help them compose (&#8221;mash-up&#8221;) poems &#8220;on-the-fly,&#8221; in the act of performance. This theory was first posited and explored in depth by Albert Lord in his book <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singer_of_Tales"><i>Singer of Tales</i></a> (from which I&#8217;ve only read a page or two). It continues to be explored and developed by oral performance scholars, including John Miles Foley, who offers an excellent introduction to the topic in his book <a href="http://www.oraltradition.org/hrop/"><i>How To Read an Oral Poem</i></a>.</p>
<p>g. Language itself, which thrives because humans continually mash-up &#8220;stale&#8221; letters and words in different combinations in order to create &#8220;fresh&#8221; and mind-expanding combinations.</p>
<p>Which leads me, somewhat indirectly, to</p>
<p><b>Thing Two:</b> <a href="http://www.everythingisaremix.info/watch-the-series/"><i>Everything</i> is a remix.</a> Languages, cultures, literatures (including scripture, as Ken suggests), music, films. Nothing can be created ex nihilo. No act of self-expression ever arises independently of other expressive acts and materials. The link in my first statement leads to an excellent series of videos produced and distributed by filmmaker Kirby Ferguson and titled, of course, &#8220;Everything is a Remix.&#8221; These videos explore the idea of mash-ups and remix culture in ways that question a) our general take on creativity as making something wholly original and b) a lot of the premises of copyright laws, which leads me, again, to </p>
<p><b>Thing Three:</b> In light of the explosion of creativity, knowledge-sharing, and user-generated content made possible in the digital age, I wonder how we might reconsider our deep-seated and fundamental reliance on copyright and intellectual property laws as means to control access to and distribution of information. I&#8217;m not saying everything needs to be distributed free-of-charge or that creators should surrender all rights to their creations. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig">Lawrence Lessig</a>, a lawyer, professor, political activist, and authority on issues of copyright, <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/larry_lessig_says_the_law_is_strangling_creativity.html">speaks convincingly to the idea that many of our laws may just be choking creativity.</a> Many others (including Lessig and, to make the connection to some aspect of Mormon culture, BYU professor of Instructional Psychology and Technology <a href="http://davidwiley.org/">David Wiley</a>) are building a <a href="https://creativecommons.org/">Creative Commons</a> and working to instill open values and to implement the open sharing of knowledge in culture and education, among other things.</p>
<p>With our current, perhaps overly-strict conception of intellectual property and the policing strategies that accompany this strictness&#8212;especially in academia, though academia&#8217;s concerns over plagiarism often make their way <a href="http://www.bridgewater.edu/WritingCenter/Workshops/PlagiarismCases.htm">into the broader culture</a>&#8212;the knee jerk reaction many people have to issues of plagiarism might just create more problems than it pretends to solve. I think, for instance, of one of my wife&#8217;s former professors who wanted her students to cite every claim they make in their papers&#8212;<i>every claim</i>. She wanted to know where <i>all</i> of their ideas originated. Not only does this approach to writing and scholarship create a very prohibitive reading experience&#8212;who wants to read something with a citation, or often, multiple citations, after <i>every</i> sentence?&#8212;it&#8217;s unrealistic, especially since (per Thing Two) every idea is derivative and who keeps track of the source behind every idea they&#8217;ve ever had? Wiley shares a similar experience in <a href="http://youtu.be/Rb0syrgsH6M">this video on open education and the future</a> (at about the 11 minute mark). Again, I&#8217;m not arguing that we allow students, scholars, writers, artists, etc., to draw wholesale from others&#8217; work without giving credit where credit should be given. But I am suggesting that it&#8217;s probably time to think about and approach our discussions regarding plagiarism differently, including by exploring the places where the assumptions of a wholly print culture stand in opposition to the radical openness made possible by the digital age. This openness mirrors in some fundamental ways the openness of primarily oral cultures (as suggested in 1f) where language and its public performance are viewed as aggregative and communal because they build quite explicitly and openly upon what&#8217;s come before. And, shocker: performers in these cultures don&#8217;t cite their predecessors&#8217; work.</p>
<p>As regards the mashing of Mormon literature, I think Gideon Burton has done something interesting and important with <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/">his Open Source Sonnets project,</a> which he&#8217;s published under a <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/">Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License</a>. What that means is simply that others are free to copy, adapt, distribute, transmit, and make commercial use of Gideon&#8217;s work, as long as they give proper attribution. Many of his sonnets are <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/search/label/imitations">imitations</a> (of Shakespeare, Milton, traditional carols, hymns, etc.) and several remix elements of scripture, generally, and Mormon culture, specifically. These include, to name only several, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2011/01/shakespeares-of-our-own.html">&#8220;Shakespeares of Our Own&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2011/01/seeking-good.html">&#8220;Seeking the Good&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2011/01/thy-mind-oh-man.html">&#8220;Thy Mind, Oh Man&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2011/01/we-will-cross-river.html">&#8220;We Will Cross the River&#8221;</a> (which was <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2011/01/my-grandmothers-crossing.html">further remixed by Kathy Cowley</a>), <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2011/01/shining-one.html">&#8220;The Shining One&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2010/12/kingdoms-many.html">&#8220;Kingdoms Many&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2010/12/lords-prayer.html">&#8220;The Lord&#8217;s Prayer&#8221;</a>, <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2010/12/his-yoke-is-easy.html">&#8220;His Yoke is Easy&#8221;</a>, and <a href="http://opensourcesonnets.blogspot.com/2010/12/unto-least.html">&#8220;Unto the Least&#8221;</a>. I think the openness with which Gideon has offered these poems and the remix-methods by which he composed them and with which others have responded creates a precedent that other Mormon writers might follow, in one way or another. It further presents an interesting test case of what Ken points to in terms of the possibilities of Mormon literary mash-ups and Mormon remix culture in general. But I&#8217;m not prepared to fully explore that case today. However, it&#8217;s in the works. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s ruminate away for a minute on the creative possibilities of repurposed culture. And if you have additional examples of mashed-up artistry, share away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>The Brilliance of the Gilgal Garden</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kent Larsen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week, I visited the Gilgal Garden (749 East 500 South, Salt Lake City) for the first time, and I came away impressed and surprised. I knew quite a bit about the garden before my visit, from articles online and the initial campaign to preserve the garden in 1997. Still, the garden far exceeded my [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_6026" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-6026 " title="Entrance_gilgal" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/0-800px-Entrance_gilgal-300x225.jpg" alt="0-800px-Entrance_gilgal" width="300" height="225" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Entrance to the Gilgal Garden</p></div>
<p>Last week, I visited the Gilgal Garden (749 East 500 South, Salt Lake City) for the first time, and I came away impressed and surprised. I knew quite a bit about the garden before my visit, from articles online and the initial campaign to preserve the garden in 1997. Still, the garden far exceeded my expectations, leaving me awestruck by the audacity of Child&#8217;s attempt to literally imprint in stone a personal expression of faith and…</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;create a sanctuary or atmosphere in my yard that will shut out fear and keep one&#8217;s mind young and alert to the last…&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-6024"></span>Thomas Battersby Child, Jr. (1888-1963), the garden&#8217;s designer, was a masonry contractor and bishop of Salt Lake City&#8217;s Tenth Ward for 19 years (itself an impressive achievement—today bishops usually don&#8217;t serve longer than five years). In 1945 he began work on the garden in an attempt &#8220;to give physical form to his deep-felt beliefs.&#8221; Child put it this way:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you want to be brought down to earth in your thinking and studying, try to make your thoughts express themselves with your hands.</p></blockquote>
<div id="attachment_6047" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 210px"><img class="size-full wp-image-6047" title="Captain of the Lord's Host" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/CaptLordsHost.jpg" alt="Captain of the Lord's Host" width="200" height="266" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Captain of the Lord&#39;s Host</p></div>
<p>In addition to working much of the stone himself, Child involved his son-in-law, Bryant Higgs, a skilled welder, and sculptor Maurice Brooks in the project; and along the way, he pioneered the use of the oxyacetylene torch for cutting stone. Child was proud of the fact that he had only brought raw materials to the garden. He scoured the state for stones weighing up to 62 tons, which were then brought to the garden and carved on site.</p>
<p>While this is quite impressive, none of this occurred to me when I walked into the garden &#8212; I didn&#8217;t read the brochure until after I had seen everything.</p>
<div id="attachment_6048" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 276px"><img class="size-full wp-image-6048" title="Job" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Job.jpg" alt="The Testimony of Job" width="266" height="200" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Testimony of Job</p></div>
<p>Instead, I was first struck by how much of the garden is about text. More than 70 stones in the garden have been engraved with texts: scriptures, poems and hymn texts and other philosophical statements that reflect what Child felt. It seemed to me like the cards, stickers and post-it notes we today put up in offices and on the sides of computer screens—except that in this case the sayings are literally carved in stone.</p>
<div id="attachment_6049" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 276px"><img class="size-full wp-image-6049" title="Scriptures" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Scriptures.jpg" alt="Scriptures" width="266" height="200" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Scriptures on the Rock</p></div>
<p>Later, I was overwhelmed by the scale of the garden and the amount of effort Child put into his project—some 18 years of his life. In addition to the texts carved in stone, Child produced 13 sculptures, the last of which was incomplete, and is, I think, one of the most intriguing in the garden. Called &#8220;the Monument to the Priesthood,&#8221; it is like much of the garden; at once obvious and obscure. Four books that rest on a rock represent the standard works on the rock of revelation. A carved globe, representing the world, was to rest on  the books, but Child couldn&#8217;t finish the globe before he died. Next to the books is an arch, and on the far side of the arch is a tall, two-part spire, representing the Aaronic and Melchizedek priesthoods, topped off by a wire sculpture of the Angel Moroni.</p>
<div id="attachment_6050" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 210px"><img class="size-full wp-image-6050" title="JosephSmithSphynx" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/JosephSmithSphynx.jpg" alt="The Joseph Smith Sphynx" width="200" height="266" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Joseph Smith Sphynx</p></div>
<p>Gilgal is perhaps best known for the Joseph Smith Sphynx, which includes an illustration of a Temple carved into its front (between the paws and below the face). Child clarified the sculpture&#8217;s meaning with a fragment of a well-known poem by Ralph Waldo Emerson, which he carved in a text stone near the Sphynx:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Sphynx is drowsy<br />
Her wings are furled<br />
Her ear is heavy<br />
She broods on the world</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Who&#8217;ll tell me her secret<br />
The ages have kept?<br />
I awaited the seer<br />
While they slumbered and slept</p></blockquote>
<p>To those who see Gilgal cold, without knowing anything about it, this all might come across as rather strange. Child recognized this possibility, writing:</p>
<blockquote><p>You don&#8217;t have to agree with me. You may think I am a nut, but I hope I have aroused your thinking and curiosity.</p></blockquote>
<p>What is important in all forms of art, I think, is the meaning that we, the consumers of art, can glean from it. It may be that, given how familiar many of the texts are and how obvious some of the sculpture is, that the meaning found at Gilgal is something we already have elsewhere. But looking beyond the obvious, I think there is more here. There are, for most of us, meanings that are not familiar or that come from repetition. And, most of all, I think there is much meaning in Child&#8217;s audacity and perseverance; in his insistence in literally carving in stone his vision of the gospel. May we all have something in our lives that means that much.</p>
<h4>Notes</h4>
<p>Quotations are from:</p>
<ul>
<li>Thompson, Lisa. <em>Gilgal Garden, an historical sculpture garden created by Thomas B. Child, Jr.</em>, Salt Lake County Zoo, Arts and Parks Program. Brochure available on site.</li>
<li><a href="http://extras.sltrib.com/NIP/gilgal/index.htm" target="_blank">Gilgal: A Circle of Stones</a>. Interactive tour of the Gilgal Garden. Online at: http://extras.sltrib.com/NIP/gilgal/index.htm</li>
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		<title>Better than Thanksgiving? Anticipating MSH/AML</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 05:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Chadwick</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The program for this year&#8217;s Association for Mormon Letters Conference is up. Themed &#8220;Liberating Form,&#8221; it&#8217;s a joint venture with Mormon Scholars in the Humanities (which appears to be a vibrant organization, even if their homebase on the web is a bit drab). MSH is themed on Mormonism and embodiment. And, my, does this family [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The program for <a href="http://www.mormonletters.org/2011schedule.pdf">this year&#8217;s Association for Mormon Letters Conference is up</a>. Themed &#8220;<a href="http://blog.mormonletters.org/index.php/2010/10/call-for-papers-aml-annual-meeting/">Liberating Form</a>,&#8221; it&#8217;s a joint venture with <a href="http://humaux.byu.edu/msh/">Mormon Scholars in the Humanities</a> (which appears to be a vibrant organization, even if their homebase on the web is a bit drab). MSH is themed on Mormonism and embodiment. And, my, does this family meal have my mouth watering! (Yes, that is the sound of me smacking my lips.)</p>
<p>Here are the courses I&#8217;m most anticipating, though I likely won&#8217;t be able to engorge myself on them all:<span id="more-5356"></span></p>
<p>*<strong>Friday, March 25: 9:00&#8211;9:50 AM:</strong> MSH: Jonathon Penny, United Emirates University, “Godsbody&#8212;Image, Icon, and Word Made Flesh Made Word (in Rudy Wiebe’s <i>A Discovery of Strangers</i> and Paintings by Kirk Richards and Brian Kershisnik).” </p>
<p>It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2009/browns-and-rusts-i/">no secret</a> that <a href="http://chasingthelongwhitecloud.blogspot.com/search/label/Browns%20and%20Rusts">I&#8217;m a fan of Kirk&#8217;s work</a>. I also appreciate Kershisnik&#8217;s. And I like Jonathon Penny&#8217;s stuff. too. He&#8217;s just emerging on the poetic scene and he&#8217;s a <a href="http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/tag/jonathon-penny/">striking poet</a> and scholar with a keen wit. I first came across Jonathon when I lurked on the <a href="http://whatjoesworkingon.wordpress.com/online-projects/lds-herm-google-group/">LDS-HERM(eneutics) listserv</a> for a short time last year (you can join the group <a href+"http://groups.google.com/group/lds-herm?hl=en">here</a> if it pleases you). And I&#8217;m deeply interested in LDS conceptions of embodiment (<a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2009/i-took-it-to-mean/">see this</a>, for starters). So I think this session would start me off right.</p>
<p>*<strong>Friday, March 25: 11:00&#8211;11:50 PM</strong>: MSH: Blake Ostler, “An Embodied God before/after/with the Universe.” </p>
<p><a href="http://chasingthelongwhitecloud.blogspot.com/2009/10/let-me-tell-you-bout-birds-and-bees-and.html">Enough</a> <a href="http://chasingthelongwhitecloud.blogspot.com/2009/10/on-relief-society-divine-organization.html">said</a>.</p>
<p>*<strong>Friday, March 25: 2:15&#8211;3:45 PM</strong>: MSH: Wyatt Brockbank, Brigham Young University, “Only through the Body Do We Know, Experience, Live: Philosophers, Poets, and Prophets on the Importance of the Body.” </p>
<p><a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2009/re-the-fob-family-bible-part-ii/">And again</a>.</p>
<p>*<strong>Saturday, March 26: 9:00&#8211;9:50 AM</strong>: AML: Tyler Chadwick “21st Century Lyric Mormonisms.” </p>
<p>Oh, wait: that&#8217;s me! Here&#8217;s a taste of what I&#8217;m planning: </p>
<blockquote><p>In the more than two-decades since <i>Harvest: Contemporary Mormon Poems</i> was published, many poets who maintain a variety of connections with Mormonism have established themselves within the field of contemporary American poetry. Indeed, since the turn of the millennium (from 2000 to the present), many have published in national venues and received national recognition and support for their work. Many others have risen to prominence within the Mormon literary community, publishing high-quality poems in Mormon-centered periodicals. Several of the poets from these two categories frequently publish work in both arenas. Still other poets with ties to Mormonism have used social media to potentially share their work with a broader audience than would be possible through publication solely in national or Mormon periodicals. </p>
<p>While each of these poets speaks with a distinctive voice and from a wide array of experiences, identities, and agendas, one thing that draws them together is a shared understanding of the language of Mormon experience. Although each understands this language to a different degree; although some speak it more openly and with greater accuracy than others; and although they claim various degrees of closeness to and activity within the LDS Church, their work can be profitably gathered and read&#8211;individually and collectively&#8211;as lyric manifestations of the contemporary Mormon cultural and religious experience. I’ve taken to calling these manifestations “21st century lyric Mormonisms.”</p>
<p>My intention here is three-fold: 1) to bring attention to the <i>many</i> Mormon-affiliated poets who are making names for themselves both within and beyond the growing number of Mormon periodicals and publishing houses (something I started <a href="http://mormonartist.net/issue-11/mormon-poetry/">here</a> and will continue for years to come), 2) to examine the best of what these poets have published within the past decade, and in so doing 3) to discuss the varieties of the contemporary Mormon lyric voice and what such varieties may suggest about the current state and the potential of Mormon poetry.</p></blockquote>
<p>Take my completely unbiased and un-self-aggrandizing word for it: you won&#8217;t want to miss this session! (But if you do, I may forgive you. Sometime. Maybe.)</p>
<p>*<strong>Saturday, March 26: 11:00&#8211;11:50 AM</strong>: MSH: Kirk Richards, “Embodiment and Duality: An Artist&#8217;s Perspective on the Physical and the Spiritual in Imagery.” </p>
<p>Um, yeah. I&#8217;ve been itching for years to see Kirk&#8217;s work in person. That is all.</p>
<p>*<strong>Saturday, March 26: 12:00&#8211;1:50 PM</strong>: AML Awards &#038; Luncheon and Presidential Address. </p>
<p>Sure hope it&#8217;s good grub. Oh, and I&#8217;m interested in the awards and what the prez has to say, too.</p>
<p>*<strong>Saturday, March 26: 2:00&#8211;3:30 PM</strong>: AML: Gideon Burton, “Eugene England Online: Liberating Mormon Biography in the Digital Age.” </p>
<p>Eugene, Gideon, and new media. Sounds simply apocalyptic. Suh-weet.</p>
<p>*<strong>Saturday, March 26: 3:45&#8211;5:15 PM</strong>: AML: Gerrit van Dyk, “‘Miltons of Our Own’: Form and Convention in the Mormon Epic Poem&#8221;</p>
<ul>OR</ul>
<p>*MSH: David Heap, “Embodiment and Sexual Addiction: The Search for Intimacy in a World of Disconnection”</p>
<ul>OR</ul>
<p>*MSH: Todd Mack, Stanford University, “The Physical Engagements of the Literary Scholar”</p>
<ul>OR</ul>
<p>*MSH: David Isaksen, Brigham Young University, “The Body and the Poetic Universe”</p>
<ul>OR</ul>
<p>*MSH: Kirk Caudle, Marylhurst University, “The Discovery of Embodied Knowledge through the Discovery of the Authentic Self: A Guide for Revealing Ultimate Truth”</p>
<p>So. Many. Potentially. Awesome. Choices.</p>
<p>*  *  *  *</p>
<p>So after looking over the offerings, what&#8217;s whet your appetite? </p>
<p>And, by the way, who&#8217;s going?</p>
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		<title>Glowworms for Jesus: the Expressive Arts meets the Enrichment Committee</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 06:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Laura Craner</dc:creator>
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When I first met Nancy I thought, &#8220;She must be a convert. There&#8217;s no way a life long member would ever say that.&#8221;  
That first impression was less about what Nancy actually said and more about what she did.  Nancy rarely answered Sunday School questions with words. Fairly often she gave a sound&#8211;some [...]]]></description>
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When I first met Nancy I thought, &#8220;She must be a convert. There&#8217;s no way a life long member would ever say <em>that</em>.&#8221;  </p>
<p>That first impression was less about what Nancy actually said and more about what she did. <span id="more-4456"></span> Nancy rarely answered Sunday School questions with words. Fairly often she gave a sound&#8211;some of which were musical, others guttural, and others as &#8220;humphs&#8221; or &#8220;ah-ha&#8217;s.&#8221; Other times she simply gave a movement: a flip of the hand or a drop of the arm or a roll of the head. When she did answer with words she usually started with, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know where this is coming from but I just find myself thinking. . .&#8221; And then the blank would be filled in with anything but what the teacher was expecting. When she was called as the Relief Society chorister instead of leading the music with standard 4/4 loops or 3/4 triangles Nancy waved her arms in circles and walked the room as if she were gathering our voices and hearing them and mixing them in some sort of harmonic alchemy. She would then nod and look at each of us and smile as if thanking us. Our half-hearted sounds had somehow turned to gold in her ears. </p>
<p>Nancy isn&#8217;t your standard &#8220;Utah Mormon&#8221; or &#8220;Molly Mormon&#8221; or whatever other label we use to describe each other. Nancy is something else. Nancy is unorthodox, but in a truly unorthodox way. She isn&#8217;t jaded or disaffected (which seems to be the standard version of unorthodoxy).  She is unorthodox in a real way. An honest way. A faithful way. </p>
<p>I was doing my second tour of duty on the Enrichment committee when I finally got to know Nancy better. She offered to run an <a href="http://www.ieata.org/">&#8220;expressive arts experience&#8221;</a> for the sisters and it was my job to help her set up and take down and make sure the opening prayer got said. It was an easy-peasy, run-of-the-mill, do-it-with-my-eyes-shut assignment.</p>
<p>When I arrived that evening Nancy had already draped the door to the gym with red and orange fabric and posted a sign that said, &#8220;Silence Only.&#8221; She was contemplating adding flames to the door frames&#8211;somehow it just seemed right&#8211;but didn&#8217;t want to scare anyone off. When I entered the gym she had set up tables with clay, tarps on the floor dotted with small, empty canvases, and a big drum circle outlined with scarves. </p>
<p>This Enrichment was going to be something else. I completely forgot about the prayer.</p>
<p>That night only a few sisters showed up, but each left with several pieces of her own &#8220;art&#8221; and a slight smile on her face. As they walked out of the gym Nancy commented on each work and what she&#8217;d remember about it. Basking in Nancy&#8217;s glow, I felt like a three year old&#8211;but in a good way. Like I&#8217;d just played harder than I knew I could and felt things for the first time and learned things that I didn&#8217;t yet have the words to describe but couldn&#8217;t wait to discover.</p>
<p>Nancy said, &#8220;<a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=19008c8fd6c20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&#038;vgnextoid=637e1b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">Jesus created the Earth.</a> He is an artist. THE Artist. And He made each of us just like Himself. He made us to be artists. Each of us is the writer and painter and dancer of our own experience. We may not be experts but we <em>are</em> artists.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tonight we had another expressive arts experience for Enrichment. This time it was folded into our annual Relief Society Garden Party and there was a great turnout. &#8220;What color is Christ to you?&#8221; Nancy began. There were a lot of sidelong glances and giggles. A few sisters even asked if she was serious. But each picked out a single pastel, closed her eyes, and meditated on Christ and let the crayon guide itself. Then Nancy invited us to put ourselves into the image. What color were we? How did we fit ourselves into our vision of Christ? What did He mean to us? Then, what words would we add to the image?  </p>
<p>Women began to panic a little. How were they supposed to draw the right thing with their eyes closed? How could they pick the right words when (for some of them) English wasn&#8217;t their first language and (for the rest of them) they weren&#8217;t even writers? Coloring and free-associating seemed silly and more than a little embarrassing. What was everyone else going to think? </p>
<p>One by one, as Nancy directed us, we gave in and played at creating something. We let go of our everyday selves and tried to find out what color Jesus really was. Lots of sisters picked cool blues because Christ calmed them and held them up like water does. Some sisters picked yellow because Christ was the light. Some made Him circle, like a hug, and others drew Him like a river. One sister even drew a turnip (she said she couldn&#8217;t explain it but it just came out of the crayon. Maybe because Christ nourishes her?). In another picture the sister drew a mermaid and layered Christ around her in different shades of water&#8211;some of which were yellow because she remembered someone describing faith as a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glowworm">glowworm </a>and Christ was like a glowworm to her. And maybe, just maybe, we were all like glowworms for Jesus.</p>
<p>At some point, the Spirit snuck in and sisters were bearing testimony through simple art and disambiguated yet meaningful words, without even realizing it. And I couldn&#8217;t help but think that this was Mormonism at its best. People with little in common leaving behind their skill sets and comfort zones to bear&#8211;to create&#8211;testimony of <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=c3c8e257075fb010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&#038;vgnextoid=024644f8f206c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD">a real, living Christ</a> and fumbling to incorporate His light into their lives in artful ways. And through the process becoming just a little more like Him.</p>
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		<title>That Time Brian Kershisnik Answered My Question</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anneke Majors</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that I finally have a moment to sit down and write that one story I&#8217;ve been intending to post since last summer, my notes are in a notebook in a storage unit in Orem and I am hiding my cough from the heat with a box of Kleenex and some rooibos tea in an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I finally have a moment to sit down and write that one story I&#8217;ve been intending to post since last summer, my notes are in a notebook in a storage unit in Orem and I am hiding my cough from the heat with a box of Kleenex and some rooibos tea in an apartment in urban Taiwan. But it&#8217;s worth relaying the story nonetheless, so you&#8217;ll have to just trust me on the specifics.</p>
<p>Last summer I was very posh and attended frequent lectures at <a href="http://bridgeacademyonline.wordpress.com/">The Bridge Academy</a> in Provo. If you&#8217;re not wealthy enough to take classes at the Bridge, I at least recommend attending their guest speaker and workshop events. It&#8217;s honestly kind of the best thing Mormon art has going for it.</p>
<p>Christopher Young was fantastic, James Christensen was inspiring, Walter Rane was lecturing the weekend I was leaving the country (fie!), but my favorite moment so far was getting to attend a presentation by Brian Kershisnik. And the moment I had been waiting for came at the end when he opened it up for questions and answers.</p>
<p>See, I&#8217;ve had this connection with Brian Kershisnik&#8217;s paintings for years. There&#8217;s something about his world inhabited by <a href="http://www.twosistersfineartgallery.com/kershisnik_gardening_in_the_rain.html">industrious, angelic Mormon women</a> that just fascinates me. It connects to this Mormon quality that I saw in families in the ward I grew up in in Colorado, but has been harder and harder to find in recent years. I know a lot of Mormons, a lot of faithful people, but there is a certain quality in Mormon women that seems harder and harder to come by. I don&#8217;t know what exactly the quality is, but it&#8217;s shared by Mormon women who grow their own zucchini and/or wear their hair in one really long braid and/or dress their children in holiday-themed fabric from the discount rack at JoAnn&#8217;s and/or have those needlepoint covers for Kleenex boxes in their living rooms. Do you know what I mean? The quality isn&#8217;t defined by any of these practices of course, but it seems to be present in women who do those sorts of things. Women who have <a href="http://www.twosistersfineartgallery.com/kershisnik_readin.html">some sort of earthy connection to the divine</a>, and you would almost think it&#8217;s just small-town fundamentalism but it&#8217;s not because these women also watch the Discovery Channel. Maybe it&#8217;s just some sort of surreal Southern Utah mineral that he eats and extrudes in his paintings somehow, and maybe the women in his life that he paints are just nutritionally primed to emit whatever <a href="http://www.twosistersfineartgallery.com/kershisnik_halo_repair.html">serene righteousness rays</a> it is that I&#8217;m picking up from his paintings. But there&#8217;s something behind it, and Brian Kershisnik knows what it is because he paints it, on purpose, over and over again.</p>
<p>Well, now was finally my chance. Here I was, with the man himself, and it was time for me to ask the question that had been burning within me: &#8220;Why do all the women in your paintings wear dresses?&#8221;</p>
<p>He looked startled. His eyes darted back up to the screen he had been displaying images on. &#8220;Do they?&#8221; he asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes! They all do! I always imagined there was some sort of cultural message buried there. I&#8217;ve been wanting to know for years why your women look so Super Mormon; suspended between centuries.&#8221;</p>
<p>He flipped through a few slides, verifying that all of his women were wearing dresses. &#8220;Hmm,&#8221; he said thoughtfully, &#8220;it looks like they do.&#8221; He paused, and I sat breathlessly waiting for him to continue with his grand revelation. &#8220;I think it&#8217;s because I like to paint patterns and a dress is a big open space to paint a pattern.&#8221;</p>
<p>He smiled beneficently at me and then took the next question.</p>
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		<title>Weekend (Re)Visitor: Arnold Friberg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 13:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Theric Jepson</dc:creator>
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Arnold Friberg&#8217;s passing this week is cause to reexamine him. His work has been a victim of backlash lately from the High Minded. (I suspect because of the massive influence his Book of Mormon paintings have had on depictions of the book&#8217;s characters, particularly of Lehi&#8217;s family. It&#8217;s simply understood now that, for instance, Nephi [...]]]></description>
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<p>Arnold Friberg&#8217;s passing this week is cause to reexamine him. His work has been a victim of backlash lately from the High Minded. (I suspect because of the massive influence his Book of Mormon paintings have had on depictions of the book&#8217;s characters, particularly of Lehi&#8217;s family. It&#8217;s simply understood now that, for instance, Nephi wears leather over one shoulder, Lehi has a long white beard, Laman and Lemuel are physically brutish. His influence has so overwhelmed Book of Mormon art that sometimes people seem to forget that his work is not The One True Depiction.)<span id="more-4203"></span></p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the fact that he&#8217;s Mormon and you know how Mormons think other Mormons can only make crummy art. So for them, here&#8217;s some worldly acclaim:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Friberg originated the iconic looks in DeMille&#8217;s second <em>Ten Commandments</em> movie and received an Oscar nod for his efforts.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Friberg was commissioned to make his famed Washington portrait for the Bicentenniel, when it hung at Valley Forger.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Friberg was commission by Britain&#8217;s royal family to paint Prince Charles in 1978 and the Queen in 1990.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">He&#8217;s an honorary Mountie.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">His original works are expeeeeeeensive.</p>
<p>But no matter who makes the point for me, I cannot doubt that Friberg&#8217;s work was consistently iconic and has shaped the way Mormons in particular view ourselves in significant and real ways.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s return to taking him seriously.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://artwest.homestead.com/friberg.html"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://artwest.homestead.com/files/friberg_trouble_for_butterfield2.jpg" alt="" width="550" /></a><a href="http://www.meridianmagazine.com/arts/001121friberg.html"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://www.meridianmagazine.com/images/friberg/originals/FribergLiahona.jpg" alt="" width="550" /></a><a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=ac08f48fa2d20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;vgnextoid=637e1b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://lds.org/images/Manuals/tchg-pix.nfo:o:1dc.jpg" alt="" width="550" /></a></p>
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		<title>Couple-Creators: Casey Jex Smith / Amanda Michelle Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/couple-creators-casey-jex-smith-amanda-michelle-smith/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Theric Jepson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Theric: Last Saturday after I saw two of your paintings on a friend&#8217;s wall, Casey, I hopped online and spent a while perusing your work online. I was struck by how intentionally religious so much of your work is &#8212; specifically in the names of works, bits of temple iconography, images from old Church clip [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: Last Saturday after I saw two of your paintings on a friend&#8217;s wall, Casey, I hopped online and spent a while perusing your work online. I was struck by how intentionally religious so much of your work is &#8212; specifically in the names of works, bits of temple iconography, images from old Church clip art and 1970s Bookcraft picture books &#8212; I&#8217;m curious how the greater art world reacts to your defiant Mormonness?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Half of the art world is intrigued by the mysterious iconography of small, quirky population residing in Utah. The other half dismisses my work outright. I try to work with people who are the former but have had the displeasure of working with many of the latter. However open-minded the art world pretends to be, they are not as a whole.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: I wasn&#8217;t surprised to see that you have a 2003 BFA from BYU. Your style was something I saw a lot in BYU galleries at the time &#8212; the seemingly random images bleeding into each over a plain background &#8212; I&#8217;m glad to finally be able to ask this of someone from your generation of BYU artists: what was so compelling about that mode of composition and how did you distinguish yourself from your peers?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey:  When I was at BYU I wasn&#8217;t making that kind of art at all. I did two shows that were conceptually based on the question of male violence and where does it come from. A nature/nurture thing and reaction to 911. For those shows I did large reproductions violent boy drawings on canvas, sculptures of melted GI Joes, projections of war video games on the XBOX, and canvases with ironic stills taken from the GI Joe Cartoon. It was very mediocre work. I didn&#8217;t start having the overlapping imagery on a white background until my 2nd semester of grad school at the San Francisco Art Institute. I started using drawing as my primary medium again. With that I think comes a natural tendency to draw what is important and leave the background unfinished. In drawing as opposed to painting, it&#8217;s more accepted to do that.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">But I do remember well the work you are talking about. The printmaking department had a big influence on that kind of work. I remember lots of map fragments, drawn lines, sacred geometry, and almost no color.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: Amanda, I see your work and I think immediately of Henry Darger, only with the addition of ceramic flowers. (I might as well add now that while I like Darger quite a lot, I like your work better. Just don&#8217;t tell the people dropping tons of cash on Darger.) Are you intentionally referencing him? And if so, to what end? (And if not, how did you come by your blond girls in not-quite-normalland?)</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">This is actually a question I&#8217;ve been getting for years.  Funny thing is, and maybe this is a little embarassing to admit too, but I didn&#8217;t even know who Henry Darger was until I was in graduate school and I got this question for the first time.  At that point I sought out his work, became familiar with it and came to love him.  I&#8217;ve even shown at his gallery in NYC, but he&#8217;s never been a direct influence on my work.  While Darger has created a fantasy world spirited little girls fighting for their lives, I feel like his narratives are very different from mine, which are mostly stories from my life.  I grew up with three sisters and my mother, my dad not being around very much and not very involved in my upbringing.  I lived in this hyper-feminine household and so these little girls just became my mouthpieces for telling stories.  They&#8217;re characters I feel comfortable speaking through.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: One thing I like best about your work is how most pieces flit back and forth between painting and sculpture. Could you comment on what you&#8217;re trying to accomplish by melding the second and third dimensions?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">I think at first that this was just unintentional.  I started college as a psych major, and then I was a visual technology major, then I was a painting major and ended up being forced to take ceramics as an elective.  I found out then that you could paint on clay and when I discovered that it became only natural to want to take advantage of clays three dimensional nature and get the best of both worlds.  I love reliefs.  I&#8217;ve been looking at the work of the della Robbia&#8217;s and wanting to get even more 3D lately.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: Since Casey had a book published by the Mormon Artists Group, I assume you&#8217;re tapped into some of the Mormon artist communities. What sort of relationship do you have with the community / communities and what value do you find therein?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey: Glen has been a huge supporter of my work. He has purchased several pieces, published the drawings I make during church meetings on Sundays, come to my openings in NYC, and put me in his newsletters. He has been a great friend as well and we have had many wonderful conversations about what it means to be Mormon and creating art. This kind of feedback is really important to me because my work most of the time exists outside of Mormon Culture and is purchased and seen by a secular audience. I am fine with that, but half of my original intent is to help push the definitions of what &#8220;Mormon Art&#8221; is for Mormons. Glen has helped my work circulate within the Mormon art world.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Aside from the Mormon Artists Group, there is a small group of BYU graduates ( Jared Lindsay Clark, Todd Chilton, Sean Morello, Jared Latimer, Adam Bateman, Trent Reynolds, Allan Ludwig, Daniel Everett, Ryan Browning, Susan Krueger-Barber, Chris Lynn, and others) that have stayed in touch and supported each other in navigating the art world. I wish there were more women in that list. My biggest support of course has been my wife Amanda who is dealing with the gallery system too.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda:  I love Glen Nelson who heads up the Mormon Artists Group, but I&#8217;ve never worked with him directly, I&#8217;ve only met him through Casey.  I have a lot of friends who are Mormon artists though and I&#8217;m married to one as well.  I feel like there&#8217;s definitely a community there and I feel like it&#8217;s incredibly valuable to have a group of people you can bond with over faith, career ambitions and common experiences.  The Mormon art world is so small and comfortable.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: Getting narrower in our definition of community, do you ever create work together?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda: I love to collaborate with Casey.  We&#8217;ve been so busy lately in our own careers that we haven&#8217;t made a lot of time for collaborations, but we have grand ideas and we&#8217;ve done some in the past.  I feel a little insecure working with him just because I think he&#8217;s a genius and a brilliant draftsman.  Ceramics is technically very challenging for people who aren&#8217;t familiar with the medium so usually our collaborations tend to be drawings.  I always end up feeling like my portion of the work looks clumsy inserted next to his impeccably rendered pen drawings.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey: She&#8217;s insecure but in all honesty she is a better draftswoman, especially when it comes to the human form. My figures are always awkward and stiff and hers are graceful and full of expression. I love to collaborate with her but it&#8217;s hard to just make enough solo work to supply the galleries I work with and her as well. We will collaborate in the future when we hit a slow spot.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: How did you two meet, anyway? Did art play a role in that?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Yes, I think art&#8217;s played a role in everything we have since the beginning.  I moved to the Bay Area about a year after Casey started grad school at the San Francisco Art Institute.  From the minute I moved out here I started hearing about Casey this and Casey that.  I&#8217;d never even met this guy and he had a girlfriend at the time and yet at least four different people tried to set us up.  Long story short, my friend was dating his roommate and she brought me to one of his art shows.  It was kind of like a blind date.  I was so impressed with his work not only because it was technically impressive and beautiful but because it had so much integrity and substance, plus he was cute, so I fell for him.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: Creating as a couple &#8212; no matter what it&#8217;s like now &#8212; is a particularly Mormon pastime in the sense that someday, the goal is, you will be Creators. In that sense, how does your work reflect your faith (and vice versa)?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Well to be honest I&#8217;ve never thought of that before.  I mean, I think creating artwork has given Casey and I a special kind of bond that I&#8217;m very grateful for.  As far as my work reflecting my faith, most of my artwork doesn&#8217;t revolve around Mormon themes, but my values are absolutely imbedded in it.  While the trend in contemporary art seems to be moving more in the direction of the edgy and the abject I find myself going in another direction.  I want my artwork to be rated G and I try to make it &#8220;virtuous, lovely and of good report or praiseworthy&#8221; although that&#8217;s up for debate.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Ditto.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: I think it&#8217;s safe to say you&#8217;re both still at the beginning of your artistic careers. So how do you balance art with concerns like rent and family planning? And how is success changing your approaches to art?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey: It&#8217;s hard. Part of me does feel like I&#8217;m a pathetic musician holding out to be a rockstar. I have a writer friend that ditched his writing career to go back to law school and get a proper job that could support his family. But I just don&#8217;t have a fall back. There is no plan B. Luckily we&#8217;ve had a bit of success to keep us going and help us feel that we&#8217;re  not wasting our time. Having a baby in August might change some things. We&#8217;ll see.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda: It is hard to balance our love of art with provident living and family planning.  Both making art and living the gospel are labors of love but if they&#8217;re ever at odds we try to make living the gospel priority number one.  If it wasn&#8217;t, I think we&#8217;d both be unemployed starving artists, making art all day everyday.  It would be our only priority, our religion.  Instead, we go to work, come home and go to work on our art when we&#8217;re not too tired.  We&#8217;re expecting our first baby in August, so we&#8217;ll see how that changes things.  I have a feeling it will slow us down even more.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: What advice do you offer Mormon artist couples like yourselves?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda: I think sometimes the pressures of the art world make it easy to lose sight of what&#8217;s important.  There&#8217;s not a lot of room for faith in it, so I guess my advice would have to be that you can have both.  Keep your testimony strong and keep working hard on your art.  I also think you have to sacrifice for each other because it&#8217;s not an easy career choice financially or emotionally.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey:</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">You can be an artist and good member at the same time. You can tackle difficult questions in your art without turning your back on your faith.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Theric: Any question I should have asked, but didn&#8217;t? Any upcoming shows or suchlike that you want to plug before you close? Anything else at all? Favorite sandwich?</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Casey:  Favorite sandwich is an italian sub with everything except mayo. I have a show at Galerie Polaris in Paris right now and I&#8217;m working on a show at Allegra LaViola Gallery for October that will have a live performance of a Dungeons &amp; Dragons adventure that is based on a drawing of Lehi&#8217;s Vision.</div>
<div id="_mcePaste" style="overflow: hidden; position: absolute; left: -10000px; top: 0px; width: 1px; height: 1px;">Amanda: Favorite sandwich&#8230; does a burrito count?  Upcoming shows, I have a group show in NYC at Allegra LaViola Gallery coming up in June.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;Off the Wall.&#8221;  That&#8217;s about it right now.</div>
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<p>A couple Saturdays ago, my wife and I were visiting friends who are notable (among other reasons) for buying art. They have a <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/bryan-mark-taylor/" target="_blank">Bryan Mark Taylor</a> for instance and they had two other pieces on the wall near their computer that I found quite striking. They were the work of <a href="http://www.caseyjexsmith.com/" target="_blank">Casey Jex Smith</a>, whose name I suppose I should have recognized as I had seen it often enough. For instance, he was the driving force behind the now defunct Mormon arts forum Head of Shiz.</p>
<p>Our friends then set me in front of their computer to look at his site, and also that of his wife, <a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/" target="_blank">Amanda Michelle Smith</a>.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/gallery.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3860" title="Don't_Look_at_Me" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Dont_Look_at_Me1.jpg" alt="Don't_Look_at_Me" width="561" height="486" /></a><span id="more-3836"></span></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve since been nosing around a bit, reading up on them &#8212; reviews like <a href="http://www.artloversnewyork.com/zine/the-bomb/2009/06/06/casey-jex-smithlaviola-bank-opens-to-nite/" target="_blank">this</a> and gushing like <a href="http://ifthebirdsknew.blogspot.com/2008/01/amanda-michelle-smith-beautiful.html" target="_blank">this</a> &#8212; and I must say, of all the Mormon artists I know, I have a hard time imagining a more in-your-face <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2009/theric-hero-journey/" target="_blank">journeying</a> than some of the stuff they&#8217;re sticking in galleries.</p>
<p>So of course I ran them down.</p>
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<p><strong>Theric:</strong> Last Saturday after I saw two of your paintings on a friend&#8217;s wall, Casey, I hopped online and spent a while perusing your work online. I was struck by how intentionally religious so much of your work is &#8212; specifically in the names of works, bits of temple iconography, images from old Church clip art and 1970s Bookcraft picture books &#8212; I&#8217;m curious how the greater art world reacts to your defiant Mormonness?</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Half of the art world is intrigued by the mysterious iconography of small, quirky population residing in Utah. The other half dismisses my work outright. I try to work with people who are the former but have had the displeasure of working with many of the latter. However open-minded the art world pretends to be, they are not as a whole.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;"><a href="http://www.caseyjexsmith.com/09.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3844" title="Bishop's_Office" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Bishops_Office.jpg" alt="Bishop's_Office" width="500" /></a>.</span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> I wasn&#8217;t surprised to see that you have a 2003 BFA from BYU. Your style was something I saw a lot in BYU galleries at the time &#8212; the seemingly random images bleeding into each over a plain background &#8212; I&#8217;m glad to finally be able to ask this of someone from your generation of BYU artists: what was so compelling about that mode of composition and how did you distinguish yourself from your peers?</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> When I was at BYU I wasn&#8217;t making that kind of art at all. I did two shows that were conceptually based on the question of male violence and where does it come from. A nature/nurture thing and reaction to 911. For those shows I did large reproductions violent boy drawings on canvas, sculptures of melted GI Joes, projections of war video games on the XBOX, and canvases with ironic stills taken from the GI Joe Cartoon. It was very mediocre work. I didn&#8217;t start having the overlapping imagery on a white background until my 2nd semester of grad school at the San Francisco Art Institute. I started using drawing as my primary medium again. With that I think comes a natural tendency to draw what is important and leave the background unfinished. In drawing as opposed to painting, it&#8217;s more accepted to do that.</p>
<p>But I do remember well the work you are talking about. The printmaking department had a big influence on that kind of work. I remember lots of map fragments, drawn lines, sacred geometry, and almost no color.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.caseyjexsmith.com/05.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3845" title="Nauvoo Temple" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Nauvoo-Temple.jpg" alt="Nauvoo Temple" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> Amanda, I see your work and I think immediately of <a href="http://www.folkartmuseum.org/darger" target="_blank">Henry Darger</a>, only with the addition of ceramic flowers. (I might as well add now that while I like Darger quite a lot, I like your work better. Just don&#8217;t tell the people dropping tons of cash on Darger.) Are you intentionally referencing him? And if so, to what end? (And if not, how did you come by your blond girls in not-quite-normalland?)</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> This is actually a question I&#8217;ve been getting for years.  Funny thing is, and maybe this is a little embarassing to admit too, but I didn&#8217;t even know who Henry Darger was until I was in graduate school and I got this question for the first time.  At that point I sought out his work, became familiar with it and came to love him.  I&#8217;ve even shown at his gallery in NYC, but he&#8217;s never been a direct influence on my work.  While Darger has created a fantasy world spirited little girls fighting for their lives, I feel like his narratives are very different from mine, which are mostly stories from my life.  I grew up with three sisters and my mother, my dad not being around very much and not very involved in my upbringing.  I lived in this hyper-feminine household and so these little girls just became my mouthpieces for telling stories.  They&#8217;re characters I feel comfortable speaking through.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/gallery.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3846" title="Girl_With_An_Axe" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Girl_With_An_Axe.jpg" alt="Girl_With_An_Axe" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> One thing I like best about your work is how most pieces flit back and forth between painting and sculpture. Could you comment on what you&#8217;re trying to accomplish by melding the second and third dimensions?</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> I think at first that this was just unintentional.  I started college as a psych major, and then I was a visual technology major, then I was a painting major and ended up being forced to take ceramics as an elective.  I found out then that you could paint on clay and when I discovered that it became only natural to want to take advantage of clays three dimensional nature and get the best of both worlds.  I love reliefs.  I&#8217;ve been looking at the work of the della Robbia&#8217;s and wanting to get even more 3D lately.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/gallery.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3847" title="Golden_Fruit" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Golden_Fruit.jpg" alt="Golden_Fruit" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> Since Casey had <a href="http://www.mormonartistsgroup.com/Mormon_Artists_Group/Church_Drawings.html" target="_blank">a book</a> published by the <a href="http://mormonartistsgroup.com/">Mormon Artists Group</a>, I assume you&#8217;re tapped into some of the Mormon artist communities. What sort of relationship do you have with the community / communities and what value do you find therein?</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Glen has been a huge supporter of my work. He has purchased several pieces, published the drawings I make during church meetings on Sundays, come to my openings in NYC, and put me in his newsletters. He has been a great friend as well and we have had many wonderful conversations about what it means to be Mormon and creating art. This kind of feedback is really important to me because my work most of the time exists outside of Mormon Culture and is purchased and seen by a secular audience. I am fine with that, but half of my original intent is to help push the definitions of what &#8220;Mormon Art&#8221; is for Mormons. Glen has helped my work circulate within the Mormon art world.</p>
<p>Aside from the Mormon Artists Group, there is a small group of BYU graduates (<a href="http://www.jaredlindsayclark.com/" target="_blank">Jared Lindsay Clark</a>, <a href="http://toddchilton.com/" target="_blank">Todd Chilton</a>, <a href="http://www.seanmorello.com/" target="_blank">Sean Morello</a>, <a href="http://www.latimerart.com/" target="_blank">Jared Latimer</a>, <a href="http://www.adambateman.com/">Adam Bateman</a>, Trent Reynolds, <a href="http://www.allanludwig.com/">Allan Ludwig</a>, <a href="http://www.daniel-everett.com/">Daniel Everett</a>, <a href="http://www.ryanbrowning.com/">Ryan Browning</a>, <a href="http://susankruegerbarber.com/">Susan Krueger-Barber</a>, <a href="http://www.tinypineapple.com/chris/">Chris Lynn</a>, and others) that have stayed in touch and supported each other in navigating the art world. I wish there were more women in that list. My biggest support of course has been my wife Amanda who is dealing with the gallery system too.</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> I love Glen Nelson who heads up the Mormon Artists Group, but I&#8217;ve never worked with him directly, I&#8217;ve only met him through Casey.  I have a lot of friends who are Mormon artists though and I&#8217;m married to one as well.  I feel like there&#8217;s definitely a community there and I feel like it&#8217;s incredibly valuable to have a group of people you can bond with over faith, career ambitions and common experiences.  The Mormon art world is so small and comfortable.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.caseyjexsmith.com/08.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3848" title="Mitt" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Mitt.jpg" alt="Mitt" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> Getting narrower in our definition of community, do you ever create work together?</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> I love to collaborate with Casey.  We&#8217;ve been so busy lately in our own careers that we haven&#8217;t made a lot of time for collaborations, but we have grand ideas and we&#8217;ve done some in the past.  I feel a little insecure working with him just because I think he&#8217;s a genius and a brilliant draftsman.  Ceramics is technically very challenging for people who aren&#8217;t familiar with the medium so usually our collaborations tend to be drawings.  I always end up feeling like my portion of the work looks clumsy inserted next to his impeccably rendered pen drawings.</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> She&#8217;s insecure but in all honesty she is a better draftswoman, especially when it comes to the human form. My figures are always awkward and stiff and hers are graceful and full of expression. I love to collaborate with her but it&#8217;s hard to just make enough solo work to supply the galleries I work with and her as well. We will collaborate in the future when we hit a slow spot.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.caseyjexsmith.com/07.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3849" title="Gift_for_John" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Gift_for_John.jpg" alt="Gift_for_John" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> How did you two meet, anyway? Did art play a role in that?</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> Yes, I think art&#8217;s played a role in everything we have since the beginning.  I moved to the Bay Area about a year after Casey started grad school at the San Francisco Art Institute.  From the minute I moved out here I started hearing about Casey this and Casey that.  I&#8217;d never even met this guy and he had a girlfriend at the time and yet at least four different people tried to set us up.  Long story short, my friend was dating his roommate and she brought me to one of his art shows.  It was kind of like a blind date.  I was so impressed with his work not only because it was technically impressive and beautiful but because it had so much integrity and substance, plus he was cute, so I fell for him.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/gallery.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3850" title="Stuck" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Stuck.jpg" alt="Stuck" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> Creating as a couple &#8212; no matter what it&#8217;s like now &#8212; is a particularly Mormon pastime in the sense that someday, the goal is, you will be Creators. In that sense, how does your work reflect your faith (and vice versa)?</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> Well to be honest I&#8217;ve never thought of that before.  I mean, I think creating artwork has given Casey and I a special kind of bond that I&#8217;m very grateful for.  As far as my work reflecting my faith, most of my artwork doesn&#8217;t revolve around Mormon themes, but my values are absolutely imbedded in it.  While the trend in contemporary art seems to be moving more in the direction of the edgy and the abject I find myself going in another direction.  I want my artwork to be rated G and I try to make it &#8220;virtuous, lovely and of good report or praiseworthy&#8221; although that&#8217;s up for debate.</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Ditto.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3851" title="Wedding_Gift" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Wedding_Gift.jpg" alt="Wedding_Gift" width="500" /></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> I think it&#8217;s safe to say you&#8217;re both still at the beginning of your artistic careers. So how do you balance art with concerns like rent and family planning? And how is success changing your approaches to art?</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> It&#8217;s hard. Part of me does feel like I&#8217;m a pathetic musician holding out to be a rockstar. I have a writer friend that ditched his writing career to go back to law school and get a proper job that could support his family. But I just don&#8217;t have a fall back. There is no plan B. Luckily we&#8217;ve had a bit of success to keep us going and help us feel that we&#8217;re not wasting our time. Having a baby in August might change some things. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> It is hard to balance our love of art with provident living and family planning.  Both making art and living the gospel are labors of love but if they&#8217;re ever at odds we try to make living the gospel priority number one.  If it wasn&#8217;t, I think we&#8217;d both be unemployed starving artists, making art all day everyday.  It would be our only priority, our religion.  Instead, we go to work, come home and go to work on our art when we&#8217;re not too tired.  We&#8217;re expecting our first baby in August, so we&#8217;ll see how that changes things.  I have a feeling it will slow us down even more.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/gallery.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3852" title="Stretch_Hummer_Procession" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Stretch_Hummer_Procession.jpg" alt="Stretch_Hummer_Procession" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> What advice do you offer Mormon artist couples like yourselves?</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> I think sometimes the pressures of the art world make it easy to lose sight of what&#8217;s important.  There&#8217;s not a lot of room for faith in it, so I guess my advice would have to be that you can have both.  Keep your testimony strong and keep working hard on your art.  I also think you have to sacrifice for each other because it&#8217;s not an easy career choice financially or emotionally.</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> You can be an artist and good member at the same time. You can tackle difficult questions in your art without turning your back on your faith.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: #ffffff;">.<a href="http://www.caseyjexsmith.com/05.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3853" title="God_Barbecues" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/God_Barbecues.jpg" alt="God_Barbecues" width="500" /></a></span></p>
<p><strong>Theric:</strong> Any question I should have asked, but didn&#8217;t? Any upcoming shows or suchlike that you want to plug before you close? Anything else at all? Favorite sandwich?</p>
<p><strong>Casey:</strong> Favorite sandwich is an italian sub with everything except mayo. I have <a href="http://www.galeriepolaris.com/artistes.php?id=46" target="_blank">a show at Galerie Polaris in Paris</a> right now and I&#8217;m working on a show at <a href="http://www.allegralaviola.com/index.cfm" target="_blank">Allegra LaViola Gallery</a> for October that will have a live performance of a Dungeons &amp; Dragons adventure that is based on a drawing of Lehi&#8217;s Vision.</p>
<p><strong>Amanda:</strong> Favorite sandwich&#8230; does a burrito count?  Upcoming shows, I have a group show in NYC at Allegra LaViola Gallery coming up in June.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;<a href="http://www.allegralaviola.com/Shows-Detail.cfm?ShowsID=23" target="_blank">Off the Wall</a>.&#8221;  That&#8217;s about it right now.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.amandamichellesmith.com/gallery.php"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3854" title="Rickshaw-Wallah" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Rickshaw-Wallah.jpg" alt="Rickshaw-Wallah" width="500" /></a></p>
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		<title>Bryan Mark Taylor: “&#8230;when I feel the Spirit I sit down and paint.”</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theric Jepson</dc:creator>
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My wife is the bulletin-sculptor in our ward, and I help out by meeting the bishop&#8217;s request that each speaker have a short bio written about them. It was in this pursuit that I learned the reason our high counselor has such frabjous hair: He is a painter.
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<div>My wife is the bulletin-sculptor in our ward, and I help out by meeting the bishop&#8217;s request that each speaker have a short bio written about them. It was in this pursuit that I learned the reason <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://bryanmarktaylor.com/" target="_blank">our high counselor</a> has such frabjous hair: He is a painter.</div>
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<div>With what I learned in writing the bio and the notes I took during his talk (this was all last March), I fully intended to interview Brother Taylor and post it here, but one thing led to seventy others and I never got around to it. Until now. (More details on how it finally happened (slash-disclaimer) are available at Thutopia.)<span id="more-3380"></span></div>
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<div><em>All images are from <a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/">http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/</a>, courtesy of the artist. Click on any image to visit that site where the images are available at a much higher resolution.</em></div>
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<div><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3404" title="view-of-the-valley" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/view-of-the-valley.jpg" alt="view-of-the-valley" width="500" /></a></div>
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<div><strong>So the first thing that I think I need to ask you is just to have you tell me about about plein air because that is your thing and I didn’t know what it was before I wrote your bio back in March so tell us all about plein air first of all.</strong></div>
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<div><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">Plein air is French for “open air” meaning the outdoors. And, basically, for a landscape painter, going out and conversing with nature directly. It’s really the only way to get a feeling for light, the color, the air quality there are just so many aspects of nature that can only be captured by being out there and painting directly from the light. And so plein air is an artist that goes out regularly and studies nature directly and all the different things going on in the landscape. It’s something that was popularized by the French Impressionists you know like <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Monet" target="_blank">Monet</a>, <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_C%C3%A9zanne" target="_blank">Cézanne</a>, <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camille_Pissarro" target="_blank">Pissarro</a>, <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Sisley" target="_blank">Sisley</a>—they were really the ones that put it on the map artistically, but it’s certainly has had a tradition since then that has evolved quite a bit. They went out and really studied it. One of the things that enabled artists to go outdoors and maybe why they didn’t do it earlier than that was because it’s so cumbersome to carry the paints out and so invention of the paint tube was actually pivotal in allowing artists to go out in the landscape and paint. They used to use pigs bladder to keep their paint, you know, just carrying a bunch of pig bladders around was the best way to go out there but once the paint tube was invented that really helped. And there’s a lot of different gear that was developed at that time. One thing is called a pochade box which is still used today in various forms, and also French easel—French field easel—the design hasn’t changed much since the late Nineteenth Century, although when I do go out I have a  modernized version easel that sits on a camera tripod, which is much sturdier, lighter weight, and allows me to go backpacking with it.</span></strong></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>So is that your own innovation?<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">No, it’s <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://www.openboxm.com/" target="_blank">a company that makes them now up in Wyoming</a> and there are a few mom and pop shops that will make these kinds of things and it’s become a little bit more popular for even those who are considered “Sunday painters,” hobbyists, who like to go out and do this and I teach workshops, like three-day workshops where we go out, my students go out with me and we paint for three days in location so a lot of sales for some of these easels are from a lot of students wanting to do it.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3400" title="On-the-Way-to-Giverny" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/On-the-Way-to-Giverny.jpg" alt="On-the-Way-to-Giverny" width="500" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>When you spoke at our ward back in March, you said, “I go out and when I feel the Spirit I sit down and paint.”  I wonder if you would comment on that.</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">One of the feelings of the spirit is the peace, the feeling of peace or joy and I think that’s in <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/gal/5/22#22" target="_blank">Galatians</a>, talks about the fruits of the spirit. A lot of artists may not describe it that way—I do because I feel like as members of the Church we have an understanding of the Spirit and how it works and and I’ve recognized as I’ve been out and I have that kind of feeling of intense joy or peace or you feel like your spirit is animated and that’s when I get that desire to want to record it or try and make something of it. It’s almost like you see it before it –I see a scene and then I have just this incredible emotion about it and this emotion carries me through as I have to work and solve all the problems to make the image come to pass. But it’s that spark, that elated feeling that carries me through the process.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>And  you do the whole thing on site?</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yes.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>So how long does it usually take you to do one?<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">A painting that I’m doing on location— I also do paint in the studio; I do paintings that are a little more involved that I use my studies for and that takes longer time, but the studies that I do on location, the smaller paintings, they take roughly three hours to paint.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3399" title="mountainsmall" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/mountainsmall.jpg" alt="mountainsmall" width="500" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>Going back to the spiritual thing, in the article about you in the </strong><em><strong><a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://bryanmarktaylor.com/FA_ThreetoWatch_mar.pdf" target="_blank">Fine Art Connoisseur</a></strong></em><strong> it talked about how traditionally American landscape artists talked about the spiritual dimensions about the art form and then it says, “</strong><strong>In today’s secularized art world, many</strong><strong> </strong><strong>opinion leaders find such views disconcerting,” and then it talks about how your are sort of an inheritor of that tradition, but it also gives distinct impression that perhaps you are out of step of with your contemporaries and in looking at this as a spiritual activity, painting.</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yes. Definitely an old-fashioned notion that I’ve even seen a spiritual dimension to it. A lot of landscape painters today do have some sort of, I don’t know if you can even say spiritual connection to it. It’s maybe an awareness or an environmental awareness or a humanistic approach to it where you feel like you are a steward of the earth and it’s all we got. But for me to fully express myself, or express myself in a way that I believe that God is attached to it, really isn’t in the art-world notion that is looked at with any degree of seriousness. The current trend today is more of an atheistic approach to reality and psychology and the human spirit.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>I get the impression though that you are respected in your field? That’s a safe statement, right?</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yeah, as a landscape painter. Certainly I’m on the younger end of things so I don’t take myself too seriously. They say that painters come into their own when they are 60 years old</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>So you have some time.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yeah.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>But so the spiritual thing hasn’t kept you out of the club really.</strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">No it’s probably just—in certain respects it can be ignored. So I feel that regardless of how it is viewed, I believe it is true and current trends aside I think eventually the truth will triumph and it may not be fashionable in this century but, as time passes things change. I think those things that have always been true will again ring true.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3390" title="Evening-at-Pont-Royal-and-the-Louvre" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Evening-at-Pont-Royal-and-the-Louvre.jpg" alt="Evening-at-Pont-Royal-and-the-Louvre" width="500" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>Speaking of the passage of time, my own eye for landscape I don’t think is particularly refined, so I can see things I like but, unlike other realms of the visual arts and other arts, I can’t really explain why I like something or why I don’t, and so I don’t know if I am good at distinguishing something that is competent from something that is really and truly excellent and I’m just curious how does one make that distinction with a landscape? What separates the great and the good?</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">That’s a great question. First of all it’s easier to show it then to talk about it but there are things that, at least in the type of work that I am about. A lot of it has to do with the, first of all the original concept—kind of the idea—are you treating the subject that is maybe just pretty for its own sake, maybe a postcard-kind of a view—or are you taking something that could be more, what you would call regular or just mundane and transforming it into something—or trying to convey to the viewer something that is quite extraordinary. I believe the latter is more the subject of a great piece of art where you take something that’s ordinary and make it extraordinary, by the way you’re bringing things out. And so a lot of it has to do with the way you are designing things, the way you’re cropping it, the colors that you’re bringing out. A lot of it has to do with the designing of each of the shapes and how they are related to each other—every stroke on the canvas has to relate to the other strokes, and the artist’s ability to make those relationships work where nothing feels out of place, everything adds to the whole, which makes a great landscape.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">One of the challenges of a landscape painter is that you have so much information out there—<a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://www.efgallery.com/title.php?ititlenum=10012070" target="_blank">take a tree</a> and all the leaves, the branches—and basically you can tell how competent an artist is by how they treat complex objects like that. How they are able to suggest, the form, the movement the light, the character of the texture, the weight of the branches and the strength of the trunk—all that is conveyed in strokes—does it look labored or does it look fresh and almost effortless; even if it does take a lot of effort you want to give it a feeling of effortlessness. Those are some of the things that I look at with a landscape painting: Does it have that labored feeling to it or that feeling of confidence that the artist knows where they’re going with it.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3387" title="Among the Strawberry Fields" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Among-the-Strawberry-Fields.jpg" alt="Among the Strawberry Fields" width="500" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>And I assume the same sort of rules apply when you’re doing <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://bryanmarktaylor.com/headingdowntown.html" target="_blank">a cityscape</a> as well?</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Yes. Yeah, definitely because it’s not just a matter of You Want to Make this Car or this Building Look Real—or however you want it to look—but how does this car or building or whatever it is relate to all the other buildings cars people and whatever. So the subject is really just the means of expressing an idea and that idea comes in a lot of abstract ways of colors and tones  and shapes. So I rarely look at a subject and think of it as a car or a tree or a building, a cloud, sky—I just look at relationships, I look at how does this white object relate to this green one over here or how do these textures, this rough texture relate to this smooth passage. That’s more what I’m looking at. And then you step back and it comes together as a painting. But for me it’s more these abstract portions that really become the most beautiful part of the piece.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3396" title="looking down Paru st." src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/looking-down-Paru-st..jpg" alt="looking down Paru st." width="500" /></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>I want to ask you about something, I just read this today and it reminds me in some ways of the things you’re saying but it’s quite different and the reason I’m talking to you about it is because I just read it today and I haven’t decided what I think about it yet.</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Okay.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong>So I’m just going to ask you what you think. This is from a man named J.F. Powers  who wrote fiction in the last century and <a style="color: #1c51a8; " href="http://www.utne.com/Spirituality/Writer-JF-Powers-on-Writing-God-and-Art-6219.aspx" target="_blank">he said this</a>, “There is a common quality in all art; in a sense that really good paintings, sculpture, music, writing have. I can&#8217;t name it. It has something to do with God-given spirit, going beyond oneself. I think it&#8217;s possible to write something, for me to write something, that even God might like. It&#8217;s possible for me to hit a note, to get in a mood, to write something that is worthy even of God&#8217;s attention. Not as a soul seeking salvation, but just as entertainment for God. This may be blasphemous to say, but I believe it. I don&#8217;t think God is there and we&#8217;re here, and there are no connections. I think there are connections, and I think art is certainly one. “</strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Well, I one thing that—I got together with a couple of friends that are LDS and we talked a lot about what art was or trying to define it. One thing that I shared myself, is that art can be something that reminds us of life before this one. And how it was and is our desire here on earth to want to be there again. And as I think of it in that context, I think it’s—what we’re talking about is God’s home or where he dwells and I certainly think that the greatest art, that work that is truly inspired, does please Him and that he is in fact as is interested as w as parents would be interested in <span style="color: black; ">seeing our child do something quite amazing even if we, you know, the little drawings we put on the</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; ">refrigerator,</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; ">there’s a certain delight to it and I think he would feel a bit of that as well as he sees us progressing. And certainly one of his titles is Creator and he spent a lot of time making creatures and you kind of wonder why they’re there and he has a sense of humor and he enjoys having a lot of variety. Study the coral reefs or the various plants—poison-dart frogs—it’s amazing what he’s put together just for the joy of it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">You know, as I experience those feelings that I talked to you about, a feeling of joy, I believe it does come from him and I believe that he in some measure feels that as well as we feel it. If he feels our pain and our sorrows then I think he feels that joy too.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: black; "><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3401" title="Setting Sun, Cold Coast Breeze" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Setting-Sun-Cold-Coast-Breeze.JPG" alt="Setting Sun, Cold Coast Breeze" width="500" /><br />
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>You mentioned you were talking to some LDS friends about art and that raises a question I am curious about: what connection do you have with the Mormon arts community?</strong></span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> I don’t have necessarily a—let’s see—a big influence or a big connection with the LDS arts community per se. And part of it is because, although I have a lot of friends that enjoy a lot of work from artists that do, I’m not necessarily a big part of that community because my work is not necessarily considered overtly religious. Although I feel it is very religious. Personally I’m not necessarily trying to cater to the religious market or Mormon market. I’m kind of more feel that I—maybe the mission field of art? Maybe that’s a bit idealistic.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; "><strong>Well, you do teach in San Francisco, so . . . .</strong></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Right. That’s right. So as far as—you know, I feel like I could have a better impact being out there in kind of the world; it’s more—you know, maybe my work, the spirituality and those kinds of things are a little more hidden, but they’re still there, but it’s just not my intent to—at least not at this time in my life—to try and make a splash into the Mormon community.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Although I would at some point I would like to do the murals for a temple. I think that would be a neat experience and something I’d definitely look forward to. I’ve painted a few things like the temples—just from the outside—certain church landmarks, but I haven’t pursued it in a way— Just because I really don’t want to do it for commercial reasons. So I have stayed away from it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong><span style="color: black; ">Yeah, I’m sympathetic to that.</span></strong><span style="color: black; "> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong><span style="color: black; ">I have a theory that um the Mormons arts need to take the hero’s journey and sort of go out into the world and then come back.</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">That’s right.  No, I agree. I think that we need to be out there and we can do more good that way. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong><span style="color: black; ">Yeah, I agree. So tell me a little bit about teaching.</span></strong><span style="color: #ffffff;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;"> </span><span style="color: black; ">Okay. Teaching for me is kind of a payback although I certainly benefit from it. I find that I really need to know my stuff. It helps me articulate what it is I’m thinking to other students there’s an interesting interaction that takes place when I’m trying to not just solve problems on my canvas but on somebody else’s and to try and get inside their minds and see what they’re thinking and uh what’s working and what’s not working; and dialogue is quite interesting, it helps me better recognize where I’m coming from and maybe not take for granted the way I think.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Also, being able to develop certain skills like being able to paint and talk at the same time, which I’ve gotten pretty good at. It’s kind of a hard thing at first because you’re just using totally different sides of the brain, I think. When you paint, it’s almost like your mind turns off—the verbal—forcing your mind—so getting those two to work together is kind of a chore in itself.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">But getting in the classroom and presenting an idea or a technique in front of the students and getting their feedback really helps in my mind solidify what it is that I believe and also be open to what other artists are thinking and feeling  and believing as well. I think it helps me to stay fresh and open to new possibilities.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">And also it can be very frustrating. Some students can be very difficult to deal with—or to work with—and that’s the real opportunity to grow as well because there is a tremendous amount of— I’m not sure how to put, to call it anxiety or whatever, but when you’re trying to teach the craft of realism or trying to create the third</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; ">dimension in a painting or a sense of light— Because there are certain things that over the years in the Western tradition of painting that’s been discovered— One thing called chiaroscuro which means light and dark which is something Leonardo da Vinci did some important work on and that later developed through Western art ever since. So that one is a tremendous—it’s a really important skill that can be taught to an artist regardless of his or her talent. There is an understanding of it that has to be discussed and taught and pointed out and it takes time to develop—it’s not just something—you know it took years to develop. That’s why we had flat art and flat faces for a thousand years, the Dark Ages because that that kind of stuff was lost. I believe the Greeks had it, but somehow it got buried. We don’t have any of the paintings surviving from that era, but that’s why we call it the Renaissance, the rebirth, an understanding of these things like linear perspective and chiaroscuro.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">So teaching that, some students resist that: “I don’t want to learn anything because it will hamper my creativity and I’ll look like everybody else.” That’s something you have to decide and that’s why a lot of people went into abstract painting or these other forms of -isms is because they didn’t want—they wanted just to look different than everybody else and so they wanted to go their own paths and invariably, everybody that goes their own path, all the canvases look flat because if you don’t learn enough chiaroscuro or perspective or some of these things that create depth in a painting then it’s going to be flat.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">I’m more of a traditionalist. I respect the old masters; I think that they learned a craft, honed it in a way that has some timeless lessons for art. Certainly the modern artists have added to certain ways of composing and design and so forth and I’ve certainly benefited from that and incorporated it in my work, but I still believe there is something truly valuable about understanding how life works, understanding like</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; "> atmosphere, creating depth in</span><span style="color: black; "> a </span><span style="color: black; ">landscape where things get lighter and bluer as you go back into the distance and perspective and all those things that have been slowly discovered and refined over the years and I think—I feel like I am one of the stewards that</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; "> carries that knowledge and wants to pass it on to others.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: black; "><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3402" title="Sierra-Ice" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Sierra-Ice.jpg" alt="Sierra-Ice" width="500" /><br />
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>I think this is one a really—I suppose it’s not explicitly Mormon, or exclusively Mormon, but this idea of learning and growth and progression as we move towards creation. There’s this need to move forward and progress and become more—</strong></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Yeah—</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><strong><span style="color: black; ">Oh, go ahead.</span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">I started in my undergraduate, I actually went to BYU and BYU, the art program is a little more geared toward the modern notions—wanting to kind of torch the past and do some different ways—kind of rejecting this classical training that I’ve been talking about.</span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>I’ve seen a lot of BFA shows at BYU so I know what you’re talking about.</strong></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Having gone through that and working through it, it didn’t feel like, I didn’t feel a lot of truth in it and some of these things have been discovered and refined over time and have a genuine—it takes just years and years to practice, to work this stuff out. You can’t ever get to the bottom of it. I feel that as a member of the Church it more goes with my— With the way I view progression and refinement and some of these things. So it certainly is, in that regard, a spiritual decision that I made I am to go this path.</span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>This is something I think about also, because, to choose life as an artist requires a certain amount of egotism, a certain amount of thinking you’re good enough so people should care and so you have to find—“ you” I say as if you I am talking to you specifically— but, me, we’ll say, I have to find a balance, a way to be humble at the same time and it sounds like that might be your path that you’ve discovered.</strong></span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> I think the big thing is you’re constantly humbled not only by the many wonderful talents that are out there—God’s children—there are just so many amazing talented people out there that it’s a constant source of humility to see what amazing things have been done in the past and are currently being done today in all facets of the art and sciences and things like that and I think it is very humbling. And the other thing is that as I stand before nature and just see how beautiful— It’s been put together in such a magnificent way, you know, for its uses—and not only for its utility but how beautiful it is. I’m constantly humbled by it. I come away from an experience like that and am always in awe of what God has created. So it’s truly humbling. I feel like I can capture just a little bit. Nature never lets you capture all of it; it reserves something for itself which is why I keep going back out.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">You know, I do have bad days in the studio but I never have a bad day outdoors. It just is such a magnificent</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; ">experience to be out there. So that is a constant source of humility. You never feel—or at least I never feel like I’ve said all I wanted to say.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; "><strong>So I have to ask you this because, listening to you talk, if I did not know I would never guess that you also do cityscapes because as you talk about your art, you’re describing very much what you do outside of the city. So what attracts you to the city then, as opposed to the places you more explicitly seem to think about.</strong><strong><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Well I usually do view the cityscapes as a landscape. I have to admit there are two sides to me and they were quite separate. At one time I used to show my cityscapes and landscapes in separate galleries because of the— As I’m talking about it, I am sharing a lot of the things, spiritual dimensions, that have developed within me in regards to the landscape. A lot of it has to do with my childhood experiences. I have a strong connection to landscape because of my time spent outdoors especially with my father and my brothers. But with the cityscape, it’s a bit later development. The love of it first began as a missionary in Italy where I just saw how beautiful— It was kind of a harmonious relationship between what man has created to make life a little bit easier and a relationship with the environment. uh however when you get here into area of modern life and urban landscapes, there is a very different mood in these kind of paintings. Instead of the tranquility and the peace it’s more  sort of excitement, the energy— It’s a little bit, it’s kind of the yin and the yang. It’s a little more spicy, it’s a little more intense as I am painting, I get transients coming up and talking to me or if I’m photographing in the middle of the road—hopefully a car doesn’t run me over—which has almost happened a couple times—so it’s just a different—it’s kind of a jungle, in a little harsher environment in some respects, but at the same time it can—I do find those moments where it does have a particular beauty to it. I think the thing that—uh— Yeah, as you can see, I haven’t quite resolved</span><span style="color: black; "> </span><span style="color: black; ">in all in my mind. It just adds a different dimension. It’s maybe so that the landscape with all its idealistic language that I’m talking about doesn’t turn into boredom. I find that going back and forth between these environments helps keep my eye fresh. Also, I feel like I’m an artist of my time and I need to describe— Not just be a recluse out in the pristine areas but that I need to show that my day-to-day life, where I’m spending it around town or when I go into the city. This is part of the reality. What I find beautiful about the city again is some of same things I find in the landscape, and that is the atmosphere—you know, the idea that things get lighter and cooler as they go into the distance—I think that’s beautiful whether you’re in a city or in a landscape; and also the sunlight, the way it hits the buildings, the way it lights up the street or the cars—there is certainly a beauty there. So it’s not that God is just totally out of the details of the city life; I think he’s still there and I think part of it is just finding that, even in those kinds of environment. It’s perhaps a bit more challenging, but at the same time it has something there for me that I keep returning to. Of course we have sacred edifices that man has built and that have quite a bit of significance to them, even though it’s not necessarily a tree or a mountain. So there’s something there that keeps me going back, but that is a later development and that is not as earlier or maybe as deep as some of those other things.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: black; "><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3398" title="'Morning-Cruise'" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Morning-Cruise.jpg" alt="'Morning-Cruise'" width="500" /></a><br />
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>What direction do you see yourself going in now?</strong></span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> I have developed a bit of a fusion between the two, the cityscape and landscape. My trees or clouds or mountains or whatever you call them have become a little more structural and my buildings have become  a bit more organic. By bringing these opposites together—and I really think it is these opposites of light and dark, texture / nontexture, more of the cool color / noncolor is where you really find beauty. And maybe for me this is the way I need to— By finding ways to combine these disparate objects or ideas to create something new and interesting. So if I continue to work I am still about refining and trying to increase the sensitivity of my work. Right now I am trying to work with a little more detail.  I use to be a little bit broader and looser—although I still paint very loose, I paint very quickly, my strokes are very fast and very painterly. Part of that is I want that energy and that freshness in the work. I don’t it to be overworked or become too static. I want it very active. I’m not trying to disguise that it’s a painting. I mean it’s oil, it’s paint. I like the texture and the thickness. If you want a machine-made or a picture, you can get that, but I want to express the qualities of the medium. Let’s see. I think I’m getting off topic here.</span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>No, it’s okay. Do you work exclusively in oils?</strong><strong><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">Right now, yeah, I do.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center; margin: 0px;"><span style="color: black; "><a href="http://bryanmarktaylor.blogspot.com/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3397" title="Low-Tide-Afternoon" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Low-Tide-Afternoon.jpg" alt="Low-Tide-Afternoon" width="500" /></a><br />
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<span style="color: black; "> <strong>Well, that’s the end of my questions. What should’ve I asked that I didn’t?</strong></span></p>
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<span style="color: black; "> That was good. I think, just to add one more thing, the subject is not as important to me as the way things are designed or developed. I really look at the abstract quality of the piece rather than the subject. But at the same time, I— There’s a reason why I choose landscape painting other than, say, instead of doing still life or figure, because I can still explore those same types of things—abstract qualities or some of those things I describe—the thing about landscape or, for me, why I choose landscape, is, one, is an immense desire to be outside, to feel the sunlight, to be out in the open. I don’t like to feel controlled and I just kind of have this feeling of freedom when I’m out there and I think, really, when I look back on my life, the happiest times in my life were most often when I’m outdoors.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: #ffffff;">.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: black; ">So people often ask me, “So why do you do landscape? Why don’t you do all these other things?” I think that’s really why, is to be out there in the elements. I feel much more a sense of exhilaration of freedom than if I’m within the walls of some house or a building.</span></p>
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<div style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: #c0c0c0;">special thanks to Rebecca Phuong</span></div>
<div style="text-align: right;"><span style="color: #c0c0c0;">who transcribed this interview</span></div>
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		<title>&#8220;Our Refined Heavenly Home&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theric Jepson</dc:creator>
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Elder Douglas L. Callister of the Seventy wrote a delightful article in this month&#8217;s Ensign, &#8220;Our Refined Heavenly Home.&#8221; I&#8217;m ashamed to admit that I might never have read it had not my dear wife told me I should. (I keep saying I&#8217;ll stick the Ensign in the bathroom where it will actually get read, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Elder Douglas L. Callister of the Seventy wrote <a href="http://lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=2354fccf2b7db010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&amp;locale=0&amp;sourceId=a1f5ceb47f381210VgnVCM100000176f620a____&amp;hideNav=1" target="_blank">a delightful article</a> in this month&#8217;s <em>Ensign</em>, &#8220;Our Refined Heavenly Home.&#8221; I&#8217;m ashamed to admit that I might never have read it had not my dear wife told me I should. (I keep saying I&#8217;ll stick the <em>Ensign</em> in the bathroom where it will actually get read, but it seems weird to have all those pictures of Jesus on my toilet, <em>Backslider</em> or no <em>Backslider</em>.) The article is adapted from <a href="http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=11394&amp;x=56&amp;y=6" target="_blank">a BYU devotional</a> Elder Callister gave in 2006 which is about 1800 words longer and has even more dandy quotations. (Frankly, it&#8217;s tempting to just lift all his quotations and anecdotes and place them here for discussion, but I can&#8217;t quite feel good about that.)</p>
<p>The article has three main thrusts, language, literature and music, with an everything-else category to finish things off.</p>
<p>For brevity&#8217;s sake, I will take a short excerpt from each section to comment on, but in <em>your</em> comments, feel free to reference any part of his talk.<span id="more-2345"></span></p>
<h2>Language</h2>
<address style="padding-left: 30px;">In his biography on Ralph Waldo Emerson, Van Wyck Brooks relates that Emerson was invited to speak at the commemoration of the 300th anniversary of the great poet Shakespeare’s birth. After proper introduction Emerson presented himself at the pulpit and then sat down. He had forgotten his notes. He preferred to say nothing rather than words not well measured. For some, it was Emerson in one of his most eloquent hours.</address>
<p>Considering how frequently I speak before dozens and how poorly I prepared I generally am, I feel ashamed. I respect few writers like I respect Emerson, but if I were speaking at <em>his</em> 300th, I would wing it without my notes, considering myself prepared enough for having had notes until a moment ago. And then I would get a few laughs and trot out my David-O-McKay-called-him-the-wisest-American and talk about reading him in high school and sit down.</p>
<p>But I do agree with Emerson that it is best to be well prepared. I sculpt, for instance, my sacrament meeting talks with great care. And I spent, apparently, <em><a title="see comment #8" href="http://theredbrickstore.com/red-brick-store/permissible-heresies/" target="_blank">too</a></em><a href="http://theredbrickstore.com/red-brick-store/permissible-heresies/" target="_blank"> long</a> polishing <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/readinguntildawn/ojs/index.php?journal=readinguntildawn&amp;page=article&amp;op=view&amp;path[]=5" target="_blank">my Sunstone presentation</a>.</p>
<p>In 2009, where soundbite culture has trickled down even to <a href="http://twitter.com/thmazing" target="_blank">the written word</a>, carefully crafted sprachen is a rarity. But speaking of sacrament meeting, Mormon culture has a grand opportunity to share its preservation among all.</p>
<h2>Literature</h2>
<address style="padding-left: 30px;">I don’t know whether our heavenly home has a television set or a DVD player, but in my mind’s imagery it surely has a grand piano and a magnificent library. . . . President David O. McKay (1873–1970) was inclined to awaken daily at 4:00 a.m., skim read up to two books, and then commence his labors at 6:00 a.m. He could quote 1,000 poems from memory. He referred to the grand masters of literature as the “minor prophets.” He was a living embodiment of the scriptural admonition to “seek ye out of the best books words of wisdom” (<a class="scriptureRef" onclick="newWindow('http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/88//118#118')" href="http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/88/118#118" target="contentWindow">D&amp;C 88:118</a>).</address>
<p>I&#8217;ve abandoned the mansion metaphor for heaven, but I do like the temple metaphor for home and mine certainly has a library. I&#8217;ve taken to reading for breadth and not depth so I memorize nothing these days, but I am still active among the minor prophets. And the world is still producing them! Minor prophets I&#8217;ve read recently or am currently reading include Ian McEwan, Thomas Lynch, Edward Gorey, Francesca Lia Block, Mary Shelley and Cormac McCarthy. And we Mormons are supplying some prophets as well. I&#8217;ve been enlightened recently by Angela Hallstrom and Brad Teare and Orson Whitney.</p>
<p>When people ask me about being Mormon, I often speak of our openness to Truth. And nothing proves this more than our canonized love of literature.</p>
<h2>Music</h2>
<address style="padding-left: 30px;">After the first performance of Messiah, Handel, responding to a compliment, said, “My lord, I should be sorry if I only entertained them—I wish to make them better.” Haydn “dressed in his best clothes to compose because he said he was going before his maker.”</address>
<p>I&#8217;m planning on rising early this summer and writing a book. I don&#8217;t see me wearing a tie, though. Perhaps this speaks poorly of my book?</p>
<p>I agree fully with Handel however: entertainment alone makes for poor art. Forgettable. Leaves you no better and thus, given the laws of entropy, leaves you worse. If I am not improving, I am sliding.</p>
<p>As for music, Callister seems to be placing classical above, say, rock. But if you have the same local classical radio station I have, you know that plenty classical music is just pretty notes pointlessly arranged. And a closer reading reveals that he is not explicitly calling modern music poor in comparison to the Old Masters. And it would seem that not making such distinctions has a decent history:</p>
<address style="padding-left: 30px;">President Young said, “There is no music in hell, for all good music belongs to heaven.” It would be punishment enough to go to hell and not hear a note of music for all eternity.</address>
<h2>Art, Appearance, and Attitude</h2>
<p>This is where the article starts to seem rushed, with art being smashed next to dressing neatly. And it leaves me wanting for much much more. (Also: How did you come to meet Audrey Hepburn, Elder Callister?)</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">David Starr Jordan, former president of Stanford University, wrote: “To be vulgar is to do that which is not the best of its kind. It is to do poor things in poor ways, and to be satisfied with that. . . .”</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Your Father in Heaven has sent you away from His presence to have experiences you would not have had in your heavenly home—all in preparation for the conferral of a kingdom. He doesn’t want you to lose your vision. You are children of an exalted being. You are foreordained to preside as kings and queens. You will live in a home and environment of infinite refinement and beauty, as reflected in the language, literature, music, art, and order of heaven.</p>
<p><span style="font-style: normal;">Vulgarity then, is falling short of our godly potential. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-style: normal;">I like this definition very much.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style: normal;">Again, when speaking about my faith, the concept of being a Child of God &#8212; of progression, of potential &#8212; <em>these </em>are the terms I use when explaining Mormonism.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style: normal;">And one of the beautiful things about Art is that it pushes us forward.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-style: normal;">At least, that art which we will find in our mansion prepared.</span></p>
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		<title>Museums, Fantasy, and the Redemption of Naked Ladies: a review of the SMA&#8217;s Spring Salon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anneke Majors</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of the famous artists that made their way into history books first broke into the the public consciousness when they were featured the Paris Salon, an annual exhibition of the French government&#8217;s Académie des Beaux-Arts. The Salon functioned as the official sanction of the art world and could make or break a painter&#8217;s career.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of the famous artists that made their way into history books first broke into the the public consciousness when they were featured the Paris Salon, an annual exhibition of the French government&#8217;s <em>Académie des Beaux-Arts</em>. The Salon functioned as the official sanction of the art world and could make or break a painter&#8217;s career.</p>
<div id="attachment_2305" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 310px"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2305" title="edouard_dantan_un_coin_du_salon_en_1880" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/edouard_dantan_un_coin_du_salon_en_1880-300x224.jpg" alt="Edouard Dantan's &quot;Un Coin du Salon en 1880&quot;" width="300" height="224" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Edouard Dantan&#39;s Un Coin du Salon en 1880</p></div>
<p>The strength of the Salon&#8217;s influence is perhaps most evident in the drama that ultimately tore down its authority – the  <em>Salon de Refusés</em> of 1863 in which many “refused” artists, among them the radical impressionists like Manet and Whistler, exhibited work that the Academy had sneered at. The Salon eventually splintered and waned in importance, but the concept of the juried show lives on. Each year, the Springville Museum of Art holds a Spring Salon, which is not exclusively Mormon art, but is definitely Utah art, and it is my personal belief that the Spring Salon is where Mormonism&#8217;s burgeoning Manets and Davids may well first show up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to end the analogy there, though, because I don&#8217;t want to speculate about what on earth a Utah <em>Salon de Refusés</em> would look like.</p>
<p>The 85th annual Utah Spring Salon is on display in Springville until July 5th and I hereby exhort you with all the feeling of a tender stranger from the internet to get yourself there and take it in. It&#8217;s a wonderful exhibition every year, but this year it&#8217;s particularly grand.</p>
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<p>There are themes emerging in Mormon art that are diverging widely from anything I think we&#8217;ve had before. One of them has a cousin over in Mormon lit and I think, though it&#8217;s a bit <em>genre</em> (they used to use that word pejoratively – the Paris art snobs that we&#8217;re pretending to be), it&#8217;s interesting. Two weeks ago I found myself at the Provo Library listening to a panel of LDS fantasy authors who were speaking as part of the Provo Children&#8217;s Book Festival. My friends had gone to hear  Brandon Sanderson, but he was accompanied by Jessica Day George, J. Scott Savage, James Dashner, Brandon Mull, Dean Hale, and Shannon Hale. I quickly texted my 12-year-old sister to tell her that I was in the same room as the <em>Fablehaven</em> guy, and it was then that it struck me that, even though Fantasy hasn&#8217;t been my genre of choice in my adult years, I was in the middle of a Mormon cultural phenomenon that has leaked out into the national literary market. And at Springville, I realized that it&#8217;s leaking into the visual arts as well. There&#8217;s not a market in fine art for dragons and sword-bearing maidens, but the fantasy consciousness is very much there. And its king (why didn&#8217;t I realize this before?) is James C. Christensen. Now, I don&#8217;t want to get too far into this because I have a whole separate essay that wants to be written about James C. Christensen and the marriage of the fantastic and the sacred, but I did notice that he&#8217;s developing a school and I met some of his disciples on Saturday.</p>
<p>One way in which Christensen has opened the door for something totally new is by allowing decorative art to be framed in gilt and sold as ridiculously overpriced limited-edition giclées. Until very recently, decorative art was something that you did at homemaking meetings and it usually involved your husband first cutting out a teddy-bear shaped piece of wood on his jigsaw. It&#8217;s also evolved through the scrapbooking phenomenon  and quite probably BYU&#8217;s prestigious graphic design, illustration and animation programs, to create a very hip illustrative aesthetic in casual Mormon culture. Did you notice the title designs in the LDS <em>Pride &amp; Prejudice</em> and the cover art of the <em>Pink Bible</em>? We&#8217;ve got this entire, usually female, design culture that likes to eat at trendy frozen yogurt places along the Wasatch front. And now it&#8217;s finding its way into our art galleries. Christensen was the first one (and maybe he could do it because he is a man? I didn&#8217;t say that. I promise I didn&#8217;t vote for the ERA.) to market a frilly, decorative, illustrative style as fine art, and now it&#8217;s acceptable. Emily McPhie has a piece in the Salon titled <em>Two Sisters</em> and Melissa K. Peck has one titled <em>Vivian</em>. The two paintings are very different in style – McPhie&#8217;s is soft and resembles a Caldecott children&#8217;s book while Peck&#8217;s consist of bright color fields that would be at home on funky greeting cards or a Threadless.com t-shirt. But they are both reminiscent of Christensen&#8217;s women – sleek, high-cheekboned ivory-skinned women wearing fashionable frou frou. And they&#8217;re fun.</p>
<p>Another tell-tale sign of Christensen&#8217;s influence is this very marketable appeal to fantasy, and it his own special brew of magic and medieval Europe and Catholic kitsch. (<em>Saints &amp; Angels</em> was particularly influential. “We can do that!?”) Christensen himself has a piece in the salon – a fantastical aristocratic family adorned in sumptuous golden robes eating glowing white fruit from the <em>Tree of Life</em>. And others have borrowed his characters – no one in Utah put wings on angels for a good hundred and fifty years until Christensen did. And so now Chris Miles can – his <em>Muse</em> sails blissfully over a landscape foliated by Henri Rousseau, playing a lute. I like her; she&#8217;s cute and her face is Dutch and I like the reminder that not all angelic women have high cheekbones and straight hair.  (There&#8217;s another winged angel in the show – a plaster piece that&#8217;s just lovely – but it didn&#8217;t make it into the catalog and I&#8217;m ashamed to say I left my notebook on the bus coming back from Springville. If anyone knows the artist name on that piece please let me know.)</p>
<p>Oh. Where to go? There are so many pieces at the exhibition here I want to show you, but the bus leaves at 1:34 and there&#8217;s just never enough time or space. A couple pieces that deserve their own brief mention before I attack another theme:</p>
<p>Philip Fisher Barlow&#8217;s <em>Exchange Students</em>; a title turns a still life into a delightful social commentary.</p>
<p>Vance L. Mellen&#8217;s <em>Omphalos</em>; edgy installation art breaks into a Mormon venue beyond the BYU MOA. I&#8217;m not sure whether it&#8217;s the LCD screen eyeball that creeps me out or the haunting feeling that postmodernism is stalking me.</p>
<p>Bruce H. Smith: <em>The Bride and a Stack of Glittery, Sightless Bachelors Feigning Insight</em>. You thought it was just an interesting still life of a Roman bust. But it&#8217;s not. It&#8217;s Orson Scott Card&#8217;s short story <em>Inventing Lovers on the Phone</em>, some serious oil paint skills and my social life, all rolled into a 25&#8243; by 25&#8243; frame.</p>
<p>When you first enter the museum, you&#8217;ll be greeted by Franz M. Johansen&#8217;s <em>A Restoration of Spirit</em>, and you&#8217;ll feel automatically rewarded for driving all the way down here. Lovely, lovely.</p>
<p>My homeboy <a href="http://www.motleyvision.org/2007/doubting-thomas/">Ben Steele</a> is back in the Salon, with just the sort of postmodern pleasantness I hoped he would paint. It&#8217;s fun, like his Rembrandt coloring book images are fun, but it&#8217;s a little deeper. It&#8217;s whimsical, but it also makes you think.</p>
<p>OK, one more theme I want to address and then I want to show you the best painting in the Salon this year and then I promise I&#8217;ll let you get back to the rest of your RSS feed. Mormons are again looking at the female nude. With surprisingly heartening results.</p>
<p>We still don&#8217;t know what to do with the nude figure in our art. We&#8217;re a little prudish, but we&#8217;re not really, not doctrinally. We&#8217;re not in the Gnostic Gospels camp where the physical body is dirty. But precisely because of that, and because of our profound respect for women as human beings (Wyoming and Utah were letting the sisters vote before anyone else even broached the topic), we are naturally opposed to the lecherous gaze that was part of the good old boys&#8217; club of academic European art. So we&#8217;re extra-vigilant. When Trevor Southey invoked Dürer in <a href="http://springvilleartmuseum.org/collections/browse.html?x=art&amp;art_id=540&amp;name=Eden_Farm">his portrayal of Adam &amp; Eve</a>, it necessitated a footnote on the SMA website that in the medieval period, nudity was a symbol of innocence and chastity. And we still tug at our neckties and turn away when the subject is broached today, perhaps because of the deep wound that pornography has inflicted on our culture.</p>
<p>But two artists in particular this year open the door again in a very powerful way, and they both do it by highlighting our mother, the first naked woman – Eve.</p>
<p>In the room with the abstract pieces, you&#8217;ll find a surprisingly representational painting that was so powerful it took a while for me to take it in. <em>Nuditas</em>, by Patrick Marco Devonas, is subtitled “the Burning of the Daughter of Eve.” The focal point is a nude woman, hands raised in a pose reminiscent of a crucifixion. There are crucifixes and superimposed pictures of Christ flanking her and obscured as watermarks behind her, and from the edges of the frame two Roman soldiers taunt her with puppets and smoking guns. It&#8217;s a little bit Dalí, it&#8217;s a little bit Hieronymous Bosch, but very original. It hit me solidly and if it&#8217;s not a scathing condemnation of pornography I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>The last painting I will mention is the best painting in the Salon, I say with absolutely no authority to say so. Sean Diediker, in <em>The Condition #1,</em> paints Eve, the apple, and the fall, and this, my friends, is what Mormon art has to offer the world. This is Lewis&#8217;s <em>Perelandra</em>, except this time informed by the restored gospel.</p>
<p>Our most unique doctrine is our understanding of the fall and what it means. We turned the Christian world upside-down when we asserted that it wasn&#8217;t a tragic mistake. (OK, <em>we</em> didn&#8217;t say that. Moses and Nephi said that. But we made sure it got translated into Italian.) And this is what we can offer the world with our art – it&#8217;s profoundly educational without being didactic, it&#8217;s aesthetically astounding without being trendy, and it&#8217;s genuinely and uniquely Mormon. And I love it. I&#8217;m going to keep my eye on <a href="http://www.diediker.com/Artist.asp?ArtistID=9028&amp;Akey=WXNQY2JN">Diediker</a>, because I think there are some amazing things on the way.</p>
<div id="attachment_2307" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><img class="size-full wp-image-2307" title="theconditionmed" src="http://www.motleyvision.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/theconditionmed.jpg" alt="theconditionmed" width="400" height="672" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Condition #1, used with permission of Sean Diediker</p></div>
<p>Well, thanks for making the trip with me. I promise it will be a lot more fulfilling when you&#8217;re there at the SMA in person. If you&#8217;re a diaspora Mormon without the wherewithal for trips on a whim to Utah Valley, <a href="http://sma.nebo.edu/exhibitions/exhibition_details.html?exhibition_id=37&amp;name=85th_Annual_Spring_Salon">the catalog is available for sale</a> for $14 and is lovely – very nice printing. I applaud the SMA for keeping the Salon tradition alive and I hope to see it produce wonders in years to come.</p>
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