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	<title>Comments on: Crossing Lines: A Metareview of The Actor and the Housewife</title>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39478</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrolling through the comments, I&#039;m seeing quite the Christmas list.  That suggests that some of you--me included--see considerable potential here.  

Moriah, why do you say it&#039;s an EFY ending?  Oh--I just saw that you said you&#039;re shutting up because you think you&#039;ve wasted too much time and energy on this topic. In that case, be warned: I&#039;m following up this review in a few weeks with an author interview. I fully intend to continue bothering people with this book for the next month. 

I didn&#039;t feel betrayed. I take the ending for what it is, a wrap-up for a story that subverts the trend in the bedroom endings, implied or shown, in romantic comedies.  This man and this woman change not only each other&#039;s lives in big ways, their relationship changes the lives of their friends and families--all without Becky crossing The Big Line.  A baby is born, the heart of a man who resents his mother and doesn&#039;t want to be a father begins to turn, a daughter gets to be a fashion designer, a couple of boys get important fatherly attention in the wake of their father&#039;s death, people&#039;s short-sighted thinking is shown up--thanks, in good part, to the Becky-Felix combo. That adds up to a lot of energy flying off these two.  Having had the course of my own life dramatically altered by (despite all appearances) what turned out to be platonic friendships, the ending works FOR ME. Also, that Felix doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;convert&lt;/i&gt; convert works FOR ME.  

Moriah, maybe Hale&#039;s husband Dean&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.squeetus.com/stage/housewife_husband.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rewriting&lt;/a&gt; of the final scene in the novel will appeal to you. (Scroll down)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrolling through the comments, I&#8217;m seeing quite the Christmas list.  That suggests that some of you&#8211;me included&#8211;see considerable potential here.  </p>
<p>Moriah, why do you say it&#8217;s an EFY ending?  Oh&#8211;I just saw that you said you&#8217;re shutting up because you think you&#8217;ve wasted too much time and energy on this topic. In that case, be warned: I&#8217;m following up this review in a few weeks with an author interview. I fully intend to continue bothering people with this book for the next month. </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t feel betrayed. I take the ending for what it is, a wrap-up for a story that subverts the trend in the bedroom endings, implied or shown, in romantic comedies.  This man and this woman change not only each other&#8217;s lives in big ways, their relationship changes the lives of their friends and families&#8211;all without Becky crossing The Big Line.  A baby is born, the heart of a man who resents his mother and doesn&#8217;t want to be a father begins to turn, a daughter gets to be a fashion designer, a couple of boys get important fatherly attention in the wake of their father&#8217;s death, people&#8217;s short-sighted thinking is shown up&#8211;thanks, in good part, to the Becky-Felix combo. That adds up to a lot of energy flying off these two.  Having had the course of my own life dramatically altered by (despite all appearances) what turned out to be platonic friendships, the ending works FOR ME. Also, that Felix doesn&#8217;t <i>convert</i> convert works FOR ME.  </p>
<p>Moriah, maybe Hale&#8217;s husband Dean&#8217;s <a href="http://www.squeetus.com/stage/housewife_husband.html" rel="nofollow">rewriting</a> of the final scene in the novel will appeal to you. (Scroll down)</p>
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		<title>By: Moriah Jovan</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39477</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriah Jovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If it were EFY, the actor would convert and be willing to be the “second husband.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There was that and there was the ending that was actually written, both equally weighted in EFY-ness.

The book was built to end on your scenario. That was its internal logic, and it betrayed that at the last minute. 

The end result FOR ME is that she betrayed the reader. And I will shut up now because I&#039;ve wasted way too much time and energy on this topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If it were EFY, the actor would convert and be willing to be the “second husband.”</p></blockquote>
<p>There was that and there was the ending that was actually written, both equally weighted in EFY-ness.</p>
<p>The book was built to end on your scenario. That was its internal logic, and it betrayed that at the last minute. </p>
<p>The end result FOR ME is that she betrayed the reader. And I will shut up now because I&#8217;ve wasted way too much time and energy on this topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39476</link>
		<dc:creator>Wm Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say it was an EFY ending at all. If it were EFY, the actor would convert and be willing to be the &quot;second husband.&quot; Although really, an EFY approach wouldn&#039;t even have dealt with this topic.

I don&#039;t know the genre well so I can&#039;t comment on the uniquely Mormon ending -- abstractly speaking, I&#039;m all for uniquely Mormon endings. What was the internal logic of the novel driving towards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say it was an EFY ending at all. If it were EFY, the actor would convert and be willing to be the &#8220;second husband.&#8221; Although really, an EFY approach wouldn&#8217;t even have dealt with this topic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the genre well so I can&#8217;t comment on the uniquely Mormon ending &#8212; abstractly speaking, I&#8217;m all for uniquely Mormon endings. What was the internal logic of the novel driving towards?</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wm, yeah, I highly recommend. They&#039;re something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wm, yeah, I highly recommend. They&#8217;re something.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Th., like I said, those opening pages--indeed, the first couple chapters--put us off so much we nearly stopped reading. Absolutely, the only reason we pressed was by a kind of faith in the author I&#039;d acquired in reading her YA books. 

It wasn&#039;t until I read the whole book through then went back and reread it that I saw how much more tightly written those opening chapters are than they appeared to be at first encounter. For better or for worse, many of those strange and jarring details have reason to be there. For instance, the baby&#039;s kicking really is a sign.  That&#039;s Sam in there, and later, he and Felix end up forming a nice bond--playing soccer. All kinds of connect-the-dot details are in those opening pages. If you can see them through your wincing.

As for the honesty factor--on her website, Shannon says that other than her husband she&#039;s never had a close male friend. That might account for some of the strain the story&#039;s authenticity bears.  Still, some might say that for never having had such a bond her intuition on the matter runs toward the stunning side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Th., like I said, those opening pages&#8211;indeed, the first couple chapters&#8211;put us off so much we nearly stopped reading. Absolutely, the only reason we pressed was by a kind of faith in the author I&#8217;d acquired in reading her YA books. </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I read the whole book through then went back and reread it that I saw how much more tightly written those opening chapters are than they appeared to be at first encounter. For better or for worse, many of those strange and jarring details have reason to be there. For instance, the baby&#8217;s kicking really is a sign.  That&#8217;s Sam in there, and later, he and Felix end up forming a nice bond&#8211;playing soccer. All kinds of connect-the-dot details are in those opening pages. If you can see them through your wincing.</p>
<p>As for the honesty factor&#8211;on her website, Shannon says that other than her husband she&#8217;s never had a close male friend. That might account for some of the strain the story&#8217;s authenticity bears.  Still, some might say that for never having had such a bond her intuition on the matter runs toward the stunning side.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriah Jovan</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39473</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriah Jovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Mark: [Hale] is taking the book where she wants it to go.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That.

She screwed with the book&#039;s internal logic to force a uniquely Mormon (dare I say EFY) ending.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Mark: [Hale] is taking the book where she wants it to go.</p></blockquote>
<p>That.</p>
<p>She screwed with the book&#8217;s internal logic to force a uniquely Mormon (dare I say EFY) ending.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39472</link>
		<dc:creator>Wm Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really need to read Hale&#039;s YA novels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really need to read Hale&#8217;s YA novels.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39471</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wm, sighting along the two different trajectories I&#039;ve observed Hale traveling--the YA route and these forays into adult literature--looks to me like we could see a masterpiece (or more) one day. But it might not be what folks expect.  I&#039;m just glad somebody wrote &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; story.  I&#039;ll take it as it is.  

As for teasing out this analysis--for whatever reasons, this is how we experienced the novel as we read it. Did we tap into the code? Maybe, but the read felt more direct than that. 

And yeah, I understood about your ... buttons. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wm, sighting along the two different trajectories I&#8217;ve observed Hale traveling&#8211;the YA route and these forays into adult literature&#8211;looks to me like we could see a masterpiece (or more) one day. But it might not be what folks expect.  I&#8217;m just glad somebody wrote <i>this</i> story.  I&#8217;ll take it as it is.  </p>
<p>As for teasing out this analysis&#8211;for whatever reasons, this is how we experienced the novel as we read it. Did we tap into the code? Maybe, but the read felt more direct than that. </p>
<p>And yeah, I understood about your &#8230; buttons. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Th.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Th.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

I read the first twenty pages over my wife&#039;s shoulder and agreed with her assessment --- both of those pages and of the book --- that the story is played with artifice instead of soul. It just didn&#039;t feel honest.

But now that I&#039;ve read an articulate and positive review, well, I still have the book.</description>
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<p>I read the first twenty pages over my wife&#8217;s shoulder and agreed with her assessment &#8212; both of those pages and of the book &#8212; that the story is played with artifice instead of soul. It just didn&#8217;t feel honest.</p>
<p>But now that I&#8217;ve read an articulate and positive review, well, I still have the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Wm Morris</title>
		<link>http://www.motleyvision.org/2010/crossing-lines-a-metareview-of-the-actor-and-the-housewife/comment-page-1/#comment-39469</link>
		<dc:creator>Wm Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and in case it isn&#039;t clear: I meant push my buttons in a good way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and in case it isn&#8217;t clear: I meant push my buttons in a good way.</p>
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