Comments on: Stephenie Meyer’s Mormonism and the “erotics of abstinence” http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/ Mormon Arts and Culture Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:17:14 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Th. http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-39289 Th. Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:38:24 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-39289 . If only I were righteous! Then I would have a bestselling book! .

If only I were righteous! Then I would have a bestselling book!

]]> By: Moriah Jovan http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-39288 Moriah Jovan Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:18:59 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-39288 @Anon E. Mouse TL;DR. However, I'm perfectly willing to accept that you are in the majority in your opinion of God as the Great Vending Machine in the Sky who will dispense all the blessings you want, as long as you have exact change. @Eugene Yup. Damn shame, too. @Anon E. Mouse

TL;DR. However, I’m perfectly willing to accept that you are in the majority in your opinion of God as the Great Vending Machine in the Sky who will dispense all the blessings you want, as long as you have exact change.

@Eugene

Yup. Damn shame, too.

]]> By: Eugene http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-39285 Eugene Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:57:54 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-39285 We are all closet Calvinists now. We are all closet Calvinists now.

]]> By: Anon E. Mouse http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-39284 Anon E. Mouse Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:00:26 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-39284 Mojo asked, "How do I know these things?" Simple. Stephenie Meyer went to BYU. There are certain minimum qualifications for attending. She has stated in interviews that she was a good girl growing up, though somewhat sheltered by her upbringing. She doesn't even watch R rated movies (hello). She does not smoke. She does not drink alcohol. She does not use drugs. She did not have sex before her marriage to her husband Christian Meyer. To suggest otherwise is absurd. She is a dedicated Mormon... with a clear conscious. She taught Sunday School. She is Temple worthy and always has been. These are facts that are not even in dispute. If she is Temple worthy than she obviously has and is paying her ten percent... you can't go to the Temple otherwise. Therefore as she moves toward making a Billion dollars she will pay 100 million dollars to the Church... or she will not be allowed into the Temple. Common knowledge. She clearly has a Testimony that the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints is true. Would you pay 100 million dollars to a Church you do not love? She loves the Church because she lives the commandments. She is happy because she lives the commandments. She makes a choice to be happy, and that is her choice and nobody can take that away from her, ever. That is why she is happy because she chooses to be happy because she chooses to live the commandments as sister Stephenie Meyers has stated in interviews. A little logic and common sense fills in the blanks. Does an Orthodox Jew eat pork? Does a Mormon like Stephenie Meyers who is Married in the Temple and went to BYU someone who hangs out at the bar every Thursday looking for a ride home? I think not. It would be silly to even consider that as a viable possibility. Surely you have eyes to see. Can you not see how her countenance is bright? That there is something about her that sparkles that is typical of Mormon women? Did you not hear about how she stayed home with her third child rather than pursue a career as a lawyer, a seemingly small but in fact a heroic decision considering her families economic circumstances at the time? Can you not see the obvious conclusion that her decisions are often unusual and go against common wisdom yet she makes these hard choices only by trusting in inspiration... the kind of inspiration only the truly righteous receive? Surely you must be able to discern that she lives the commandments like Nephi and Nephi's wife lived the commandments... she did not and does not even go to R-rated movies. I therefore posed the question, "Is she receiving divine help..." Does this explain the supernatural-like influence that she clearly wields over her fans? I tell you, I have never seen anything like it. The internet is literally littered with videos and blogs with people who have some complaint or other about the Twilight books... and yet they then turn around and admit to having read the whole Twilight series multiple times... and will read it... AGAIN. Is this the case of the windows of Heaven being opened as the scriptures say they will be opened for those that live the commandments and have faith? I furthermore wrote that "...if she was my Sunday school teacher, I would be taking notes... who wouldn't?" I stand by that sentence. Perhaps Mormons can do more than invent surgical equipment, the transistor, the television, make mega-millions on fiber optics, and Silicon valley land development. Maybe Mormon's can write popular books as well. Not so good as the Jews in regards to writing, but still worthy of praise. I see no reason that God can not open the windows of Heaven for those Mormons that write books, as much as those Mormons that create diamonds by machine, or the Mormons who run the Huntsman chemical corporation and whatnot. What is more important to God, healing people of cancer and aids, or curing people of hatred and illiteracy? If God can bless a Mormon mommy because she had a dream, or give a farm boy in Palmyra New York a divine visitation of Jesus Christ, who else can God bless... If God has a mind to do so? Who can stop God's will, when God has it is his power to do anything he wants to do that is right? And can we not read in the Book Of Mormon "... I delight in the chastity of my daughters..." ? It is not the seemingly considerable treasure on Earth that is remarkable about Stephanie Meyers, it is the treasure in Heaven that she has and is accumulating every day that is even more significant. For good and evil people receive treasure in this life, but only the good receive a good treasure in the next life, while the bad receive only a lesser treasure in the next life. And that is the only real lasting wealth... the wealth that comes from being the good Samaritan, while the bad Samaritan will not receive a reward in God's kingdom. It is safe to say that Stephenie Meyers is a good Samaritan, regardless of her Earthly blessings in mortality. It is her rewards in Heaven in the next life that will be the size of an entire Universe and then some. Which is the same reward as someone who is homeless... but is equally as righteous and is also the good... not the bad... Samaritan. God won't ask you on judgement day how much money you made down on planet Earth. God will however ask you and judge you on how much righteousness you did (or did not). I think sister Meyers is in for a big payday. Something tells me I'm right. Mojo asked, “How do I know these things?” Simple. Stephenie Meyer went to BYU. There are certain minimum qualifications for attending. She has stated in interviews that she was a good girl growing up, though somewhat sheltered by her upbringing. She doesn’t even watch R rated movies (hello). She does not smoke. She does not drink alcohol. She does not use drugs. She did not have sex before her marriage to her husband Christian Meyer. To suggest otherwise is absurd. She is a dedicated Mormon… with a clear conscious. She taught Sunday School. She is Temple worthy and always has been. These are facts that are not even in dispute. If she is Temple worthy than she obviously has and is paying her ten percent… you can’t go to the Temple otherwise. Therefore as she moves toward making a Billion dollars she will pay 100 million dollars to the Church… or she will not be allowed into the Temple. Common knowledge. She clearly has a Testimony that the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints is true. Would you pay 100 million dollars to a Church you do not love? She loves the Church because she lives the commandments. She is happy because she lives the commandments. She makes a choice to be happy, and that is her choice and nobody can take that away from her, ever. That is why she is happy because she chooses to be happy because she chooses to live the commandments as sister Stephenie Meyers has stated in interviews. A little logic and common sense fills in the blanks. Does an Orthodox Jew eat pork? Does a Mormon like Stephenie Meyers who is Married in the Temple and went to BYU someone who hangs out at the bar every Thursday looking for a ride home? I think not. It would be silly to even consider that as a viable possibility. Surely you have eyes to see. Can you not see how her countenance is bright? That there is something about her that sparkles that is typical of Mormon women? Did you not hear about how she stayed home with her third child rather than pursue a career as a lawyer, a seemingly small but in fact a heroic decision considering her families economic circumstances at the time? Can you not see the obvious conclusion that her decisions are often unusual and go against common wisdom yet she makes these hard choices only by trusting in inspiration… the kind of inspiration only the truly righteous receive? Surely you must be able to discern that she lives the commandments like Nephi and Nephi’s wife lived the commandments… she did not and does not even go to R-rated movies. I therefore posed the question, “Is she receiving divine help…” Does this explain the supernatural-like influence that she clearly wields over her fans? I tell you, I have never seen anything like it. The internet is literally littered with videos and blogs with people who have some complaint or other about the Twilight books… and yet they then turn around and admit to having read the whole Twilight series multiple times… and will read it… AGAIN. Is this the case of the windows of Heaven being opened as the scriptures say they will be opened for those that live the commandments and have faith? I furthermore wrote that “…if she was my Sunday school teacher, I would be taking notes… who wouldn’t?” I stand by that sentence. Perhaps Mormons can do more than invent surgical equipment, the transistor, the television, make mega-millions on fiber optics, and Silicon valley land development. Maybe Mormon’s can write popular books as well. Not so good as the Jews in regards to writing, but still worthy of praise. I see no reason that God can not open the windows of Heaven for those Mormons that write books, as much as those Mormons that create diamonds by machine, or the Mormons who run the Huntsman chemical corporation and whatnot. What is more important to God, healing people of cancer and aids, or curing people of hatred and illiteracy? If God can bless a Mormon mommy because she had a dream, or give a farm boy in Palmyra New York a divine visitation of Jesus Christ, who else can God bless… If God has a mind to do so? Who can stop God’s will, when God has it is his power to do anything he wants to do that is right? And can we not read in the Book Of Mormon “… I delight in the chastity of my daughters…” ? It is not the seemingly considerable treasure on Earth that is remarkable about Stephanie Meyers, it is the treasure in Heaven that she has and is accumulating every day that is even more significant. For good and evil people receive treasure in this life, but only the good receive a good treasure in the next life, while the bad receive only a lesser treasure in the next life. And that is the only real lasting wealth… the wealth that comes from being the good Samaritan, while the bad Samaritan will not receive a reward in God’s kingdom. It is safe to say that Stephenie Meyers is a good Samaritan, regardless of her Earthly blessings in mortality. It is her rewards in Heaven in the next life that will be the size of an entire Universe and then some. Which is the same reward as someone who is homeless… but is equally as righteous and is also the good… not the bad… Samaritan. God won’t ask you on judgement day how much money you made down on planet Earth. God will however ask you and judge you on how much righteousness you did (or did not). I think sister Meyers is in for a big payday. Something tells me I’m right.

]]> By: joyce http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-39064 joyce Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:39:47 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-39064 You are related to my cildren through the Crandall line You are related to my cildren through the Crandall line

]]> By: Theric Jepson http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-38816 Theric Jepson Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:12:05 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-38816 . <a href="http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2009/11/-twilight-robert-pattinson-vampire-saga-is-a-metaphor-for-abstinence.html" rel="nofollow">Robert Pattinson gives this post a big fat amen.</a> .

Robert Pattinson gives this post a big fat amen.

]]> By: Lily http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-38330 Lily Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:06:39 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-38330 Love Twilight, but Harry Potter is soooooooo much better Love Twilight, but Harry Potter is soooooooo much better

]]> By: Eugene http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-38320 Eugene Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:02:15 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-38320 There are people (I know they exist) for whom high school was the fondest period of their lives. They actually attend high school reunions. And then there are those of us who couldn't leave fast enough and never looked back. From my perspective, the Cullens are trapped in the bowels of hell. As Oz quips at the end of season three of <i>Buffy,</i> after battling the evil mayor (who's turned into a giant serpent) and blowing the place to kingdom come: "We survived . . . high school." There are people (I know they exist) for whom high school was the fondest period of their lives. They actually attend high school reunions. And then there are those of us who couldn’t leave fast enough and never looked back.

From my perspective, the Cullens are trapped in the bowels of hell.

As Oz quips at the end of season three of Buffy, after battling the evil mayor (who’s turned into a giant serpent) and blowing the place to kingdom come: “We survived . . . high school.”

]]> By: Katya http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-38319 Katya Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19:01:56 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-38319 Oh, and there's a parallel between the Cullens' immortality and the Mormon idea of eternal families! (Or maybe I'm totally off base, here . . .) Oh, and there’s a parallel between the Cullens’ immortality and the Mormon idea of eternal families! (Or maybe I’m totally off base, here . . .)

]]> By: Katya http://www.motleyvision.org/2008/stephanie-meyers-mormonism-and-the-erotics-of-abstinence/comment-page-2/#comment-38318 Katya Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:41:23 +0000 http://www.motleyvision.org/?p=445#comment-38318 Agreed. That's a fascinating take. Agreed. That’s a fascinating take.

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