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	<title>Comments on: Counterculture &#8212; not subculture</title>
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		<title>By: Th.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

There are clues to prove their Mormonism if you already know, but otherwise, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thmazing.blogspot.com/2007/01/bang-bang-bang.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sunfall Festival is excellent&lt;/a&gt; without being obviously LDS. So I don&#039;t know how well you consider that to count.

There are others as well, but I&#039;m no expert and Sunfall is astonishing. I&#039;m not joking. Buy &lt;i&gt;Monday 23&lt;/i&gt; today. And &lt;i&gt;Bang Bang Bang&lt;/i&gt; tomorrow.</description>
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<p>There are clues to prove their Mormonism if you already know, but otherwise, <a href="http://thmazing.blogspot.com/2007/01/bang-bang-bang.html" rel="nofollow">Sunfall Festival is excellent</a> without being obviously LDS. So I don&#8217;t know how well you consider that to count.</p>
<p>There are others as well, but I&#8217;m no expert and Sunfall is astonishing. I&#8217;m not joking. Buy <i>Monday 23</i> today. And <i>Bang Bang Bang</i> tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Ogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Ogan</dc:creator>
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		<description>As a person being re-introduced to Mormon culture in the last eight years, I find it difficult to find any Mormon pop music that is not so syrupy sweet that it won&#039;t cause a diabetic coma.  You mention one rocker in the other blog.  I didn&#039;t know we could listen to rock and roll without breaking some sort of covenant (which I break on a regular basis). I&#039;ll give Mark Hansen a listen  I am interested in learning more about CCM and Mormon pop music and if some good pop/rock music is being produced by these groups.  

Some of the kids in our ward listen to CCM but I have no idea in what category it falls.  As a side note when I run across CCM videos a lot of the musicians have piercing and tattoos.  I assume we will not see that in Mormon musicians any time soon.  When I listen to Mormon music it is still the Mormon Tabernacle Choir which of course is not considered a pop group.

I like the subculture idea. I certainly would fit better into mainstream Mormon if a subculture was accepted as part of the whole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a person being re-introduced to Mormon culture in the last eight years, I find it difficult to find any Mormon pop music that is not so syrupy sweet that it won&#8217;t cause a diabetic coma.  You mention one rocker in the other blog.  I didn&#8217;t know we could listen to rock and roll without breaking some sort of covenant (which I break on a regular basis). I&#8217;ll give Mark Hansen a listen  I am interested in learning more about CCM and Mormon pop music and if some good pop/rock music is being produced by these groups.  </p>
<p>Some of the kids in our ward listen to CCM but I have no idea in what category it falls.  As a side note when I run across CCM videos a lot of the musicians have piercing and tattoos.  I assume we will not see that in Mormon musicians any time soon.  When I listen to Mormon music it is still the Mormon Tabernacle Choir which of course is not considered a pop group.</p>
<p>I like the subculture idea. I certainly would fit better into mainstream Mormon if a subculture was accepted as part of the whole.</p>
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