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Soapbox: Mark Hansen on the LDS music scene

By Wm Morris | 3.30.05

Note: I asked Mark Hansen, LDS musician and Mo’ Boy Blog author, to write a guest commentary/primer for A Motley Vision on LDS music. His response is below. He has also written a second commentary that speaks to the dilemma of artists finding an audience and the audience finding artists which will appear tomorrow.

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The State of the Art
By Mark Hansen

William, of A Motley Vision, e-mailed me and asked for a guest blog, a commentary on what’s happening on the LDS music scene. One of his first questions to me was “Why do I think the Mormon music scene is worth checking out?” His second was, “Why do I think it’s getting better?”

The funny part about those two questions is that it reveals an underlying dissatisfaction that we Mormons have had with our music for close to two decades, now. Ever since Papa Lex brought us “Saturday’s Warrior”, and the CES seminary program released, “Like Unto Us”, we’ve been slowly developing a scene. A place (virtual, not necessarily physical), where we can hear music made by us, for us. Music that expresses our unique vision of cristianity, our unique lifestyle. So, what’s wrong with that? What’s there to be dissatisfied of?

Well, up until just recently, there wasn’t much diversity. There still isn’t the kind of diversity that CCM (Contemporary Christian Music) has, nor mainstream popular music, but there is certainly more than there was ten, or even five years ago.

In its infancy, LDS pop music was limited to pretty much one style, all encompassed by the sounds of Afterglow, Michael McLean, and Janice Kapp Perry. There were a few albums and early CD’s that attempted to break out of that mold, but they failed, by and large, to draw much attention.

In the mid-90’s or so, things started to change a bit, and the singer/songwriter/troubadour type began to bring a bit more diversity. A couple of the bigger LDS labels started to put more and more emphasis on the quality of the writing, so that the songs were more like the radio, less like a Sunday school lesson that rhymed. A major leap forward, in my opinion. The quality of the productions increased as well.

Since then, we’ve developed our mainstream pop music into four current, basic sounds:

1. Traditional “Soft Sunday” ballads. The gentle, relaxing music that you hear on a couple of the Salt Lake City Sunday radio stations. Mostly keyboard and orchestra-driven, it’s very tranquil and inspirational. A lot of church members still love this stuff. Though there are individual songs that I love, by and large, it puts me to sleep!

2. The folk singer/songwriter troubadours. Acoustic instruments, intelligent writing, often not directly focused on gospel topics, frequently artistic! Peter Breinholt, Ryan Shupe, Sam Payne, and the celtic group Fiddlesticks have been champions of this style. There are many, many others.

3. A Capella and other vocal groups are quite popular. Mostly good-looking younger guys, they range from the silly (Moosebutter), to the temporarily hip (Jericho Road), to others with a bit more mileage under their belts (Eclipse).

4. Pianists are quite ubiquitous in the Mormon world. In the current scene there are several making CD’s of inspirational piano music. Some would call it “New Age” music, others don’t like the association with the “New Age” religions of recent years. Paul Cardall is a great example of this genre.

Now, there are others that are making CD’s that don’t fit into these categories. There are some categories that are just beginning to make a showing. Rock is a great example. For a long time, the only rock music was Greg Simpson (and he was sort of on the edge of folk and rock). Then, along came The Singles Ward and The RM soundtracks, and that showed us that rock can be cool, fun, and even safe for our testimonies. Still, I can count on one or two hands the CD’s that I’ve heard that are really LDS-oriented rock.

Country is also woefully underrepresented. Jazz is beginning to make some appearances as well. In my ‘net travels I have even encountered a handful of LDS rappers, though all but one were still too preachy.

To find much of the more diverse LDS music, you have to look and look deep. You have to find the underground, looking for the music beyond the Deseret Book shelf. You have to explore the ‘net and spend some time.

I have to give a few warnings. Much of the indie music within LDS Music is new stuff. It’s being produced and paid for by the artists themselves. As a result, it’s often not as technically polished as the music you’ll hear from Deseret Book/Excel. Many of these projects are DIY, with someone sitting at home recording their music in front of their computer. Still, I encounter some of the most innovative work while plowing through the depths of the Internet.

William also asked for some recommendations. Keep in mind that these are personal suggestions. I like them. A lot. Your mileage may vary. These are in no particular order.

1. Stephanie Smith — She’s a little on the edgier side of the troubadours. Great writing and a wonderful voice.

2. Cheri Magill –- One of my newest favorites. he’s a singer/songwriter, but some of her tunes rock. Others are just good anyway!

3. Greg Simpson –- I’ve been a hard-core fan of his since I heard “Seven Wonders”. Not very prolific, but I’ve found him to be worth the wait. His gravelly rock voice is, I think, one thing that keeps him from winning any of the many Pearl Awards he’s been nominated for, but that’s what draws me in. That, and his driving beats, virtuoso guitar work, and intelligent lyrics.

4. The RM Soundtrack –- I love this one! The rock versions of the hymns and the Janice Kapp Perry songs are way too much fun. In addition, there are a few songs that cross over from novelty into full-on art.

5. Dave Edwards is one of the most innovative songwriters I’ve heard in years. He’s the greatest.

6. Sam Payne — Even though Sam is a singer/songwriter, his tunes are bit more jazz-based. Really fresh stuff.

7. Lastly, I can’t resist the shameless plug. My own brand of LDS-oriented rock, to be found at http://markhansenmusic.com. “One United Generation” is the only CD I know of aimed at an LDS audience with songs that rock this hard.

8. Well, except for Fast Sunday’s “SumsaykyasmuS.”

In addition, there are a few good hubs for finding independent LDS music out there on the net. Start with LDS Musician, and also check out LDS Audio and Latter Day Songs. Then just Google “LDS music” or “Mormon music,” and see what comes up.

Ultimately, I’d love to see the scene grow to the point where we have the kind of diversity that CCM has. Pop, punk, rock, country, jazz, fusion, classical, folk, techno… The fullness of that kind of variety is a number of years off. The audience needs to be more aware, the musicians need to step forward and produce (represent, yo!), and then it will truly “blossom as a rose.”

Thanks, Mark!

ALSO: Read the inaugural “Soapbox” commentary — my sermon/rant on Mormons and media consumption.

8 Responses to Soapbox: Mark Hansen on the LDS music scene

  1. Anonymous

    Another good LDS music resource, of course, is KZION . 

    Posted by Kim Siever

  2. Anonymous

    Thanks for the reminder, Kim. 

    Posted by William Morris

  3. Anonymous

    Mark and William: thanks for this post, specifically the recommendations. A question, though.

    Mainly in rock music, but in other kinds as well, it seems that the best songs have some sort of “conflict” at the center (unreturned love, disrespect, etc.). At very least, the best music (or, what is generally considered the best music) is challenging to the listener. Perhaps “challenging” isn’t the best word, but I mean “music that makes the listener think about it”. It seems to me that the ultimate downfall of CCM (at least in the music geek community) is that it doesn’t do this–it is “too safe”, “too nice”, “too orthodox”…that sort of thing.

    Do you see what I’m talking about? Is this even a “problem”? And, specifically in a LDS context, how can LDS musicians create music that is “edgy” or “challenging” in a culture that is hesitant about a whit of dissent? (For some have even been hesitant about the rocked-up hymns on the RM soundtrack.) 

    Posted by Pris

  4. Anonymous

    Nice post. Thanks for the analysis of Mormon music that’s out there. 

    Posted by danithew

  5. Anonymous

    Mark, will you update your links to Stephanie and David’s sites? The links don’t work. I believe that if you add “music” to the end of each of their names in the URL’s, that gets you there.

    Thanks so much for these recommendations. I definitely plan on checking them out. 

    Posted by Ryan Bell

  6. Anonymous

    Thanks for doing the fact checking I should have done, Ryan.

    I’ve updated the links.

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    Pris:

    I know what you are talking about. But I don’t know how much of a problem it is. Or rather it seems to me that the problem isn’t a concern over “edgy” work [placing that within a certain parameter, of course. that is to say assuming that the work can still be seen as "faithful" even if it is "challenging"] but rather the problem that because of those concerns the market has been rather narrow up to this point which means that many prospective LDS consumers have ignored it because they can find better created, more interesting work elsewhere. 

    Posted by William Morris

  7. Anonymous

    Thanks for the information. I love LDS music and it all the stuff is great for my teen. 

    Posted by Shelly

  8. Anonymous

    My Opinion.

    “Mainliner Accommodative Vs Fundemental Truth .
    (Sociologies of discontent.)

    Being born into a now apostasy of what was an “Restoration of all things”, I feared joining this schism for a fear to a return to
    Ye Old’e days of “spill your own blood”, “for stargazing” sermons and, totalitarianism?
    Alienation in the Gospel, let alone outside is an enormous issue.The mainstream church is accommodative, yet I perceive a different, “line of fire”, not ring.
    Accommodative of new members, and cautionary of old or established members. “Well mold them”,stiff collar.etc.
    Those with worthiness issues are put on the back-burner.or in other words, “Hell”! See. (Perpetual Disfellowship)
    Worth to the church equals worthiness.
    Alienation can be of a members eccentricity or unconventional mode of socialization. If they become aware of the Apostasy
    From former teaching, laws and ordinances, not being practiced this may drive their feelings into despair, and initiate their inactivity and apostasy fromThe Hierarchy or church. I feel True Apostasy is only that between the individual and the Lord, not from inactive church activity. I.e. Excommunication does not amount to apostasy from God or The Priesthood. Lehi and his family departed into the wilderness, away from the corrupt apostate Jewish church before it was to late, yet retained the priesthood. Our relationship with the almighty is That as Hugh Nibley, wrote, as intimate as can be.
    With alienation from inactivity for fear of partaking in an Apostate Hierarchy, comes alienation from Worship and apostate ordinances and emblems. So does this amount to alienation from God?
    The individual has not place to go to worship God. In Avraham
    Gildi book “The literary work of Isaiah” Pg 27. Israel’s past as a type for the future, it talks of how Israel alienated itself from the Lord anciently, “so they could an would again”. This is the message for our day, Yet the apostasy or alienation of the church
    And its members from the Lord” presents a very difficult problem.
    How are we saved in an apostate hierarchy alienated from the correct laws and ordinances of the Gospel? If true Zion is with the Splinter Group or “so Called” LDS dissenters who live the correct “laws of Zion”, and we don’t join them, then what becomes of the world Outside this Zion?, how is the gathering of the wheat from tares in the apostate gentile churches had? It seems to be a case of “Hold on to the Hierarchy and hope for the best”, Not the Beast!

    The Problem with Faith Promoting Material.

    “Faith promoting Material” in historical material and non-canon scripture can promote blindness to discerning Truth in an Organizational Hierarchy “Trust not in the hand of flesh.”
    To discern properly truth, we need opposing options, arguments and criticism. “Their must be opposition in all things” Otherwise we have a Totalitarianism, that cannot be easily be “in check” for improper actions, of the Hierarchy. Orwell’s book 1984 shows the deception Played out on the preterit, when only material supported by the Hierarchy is read an encouraged.

     

    Posted by “Sociologies of discontent”

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