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	<title>Comments on: Review: &#8216;New York Doll&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Mortensen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Mortensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the version of &quot;Poor Wayfaring Man&quot; that Buster Poindexter performs at the end of the film. At first I assumed it was a joke, but ultimately I found it to be a touching tribute to his friend and former bandmate. It was quite appealing. &#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://motleyvision.blogspot.com/2005/11/review-new-york-doll.html&quot; TITLE=&quot;bradmortensen at msn dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brad Mortensen&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the version of &#8220;Poor Wayfaring Man&#8221; that Buster Poindexter performs at the end of the film. At first I assumed it was a joke, but ultimately I found it to be a touching tribute to his friend and former bandmate. It was quite appealing. &#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://motleyvision.blogspot.com/2005/11/review-new-york-doll.html" TITLE="bradmortensen at msn dot com" rel="nofollow">Brad Mortensen</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William,

Could I persuade you to say more about the graphics and how they relate to a &quot;Mormon aesthetic&quot;? Are you referring to the music genealogy chart, or the time lines, or something else?

Eric,
Quite the contrary, I think. I&#039;ve read more reviews that say &quot;Interesting stuff, for heavy-handed Mormon propaganda&quot; than ignore the religious aspects. Christgau, for one.

Greg Call</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William,</p>
<p>Could I persuade you to say more about the graphics and how they relate to a &#8220;Mormon aesthetic&#8221;? Are you referring to the music genealogy chart, or the time lines, or something else?</p>
<p>Eric,<br />
Quite the contrary, I think. I&#8217;ve read more reviews that say &#8220;Interesting stuff, for heavy-handed Mormon propaganda&#8221; than ignore the religious aspects. Christgau, for one.</p>
<p>Greg Call</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>William, I&#039;ve been fascinated lately by this concept of the &quot;aestetic canon&quot; you mentioned.  I&#039;ve heard the term bantered around in some other places as well.  Over the last ten years or so, there has been a real blossoming of LDS arts, particularly in the popular arts.  I agree, that even with that, there still isn&#039;t enough to really have &quot;classics&quot; of LDS art yet.  

But I&#039;d be really curious to discover what works are leaning that way, in all genres...

MRKH

PS, I reviewed &quot;Doll&quot; and &quot;States of Grace&quot; at Moboy: http://moboy.blogspot.com/2005/11/grace-and-dolls-my-wife-and-i-went-to.html
&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://moboy.blogspot.com&quot; TITLE=&quot;mrkhmusic at yahoo dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mark Hansen&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, I&#8217;ve been fascinated lately by this concept of the &#8220;aestetic canon&#8221; you mentioned.  I&#8217;ve heard the term bantered around in some other places as well.  Over the last ten years or so, there has been a real blossoming of LDS arts, particularly in the popular arts.  I agree, that even with that, there still isn&#8217;t enough to really have &#8220;classics&#8221; of LDS art yet.  </p>
<p>But I&#8217;d be really curious to discover what works are leaning that way, in all genres&#8230;</p>
<p>MRKH</p>
<p>PS, I reviewed &#8220;Doll&#8221; and &#8220;States of Grace&#8221; at Moboy: <a href="http://moboy.blogspot.com/2005/11/grace-and-dolls-my-wife-and-i-went-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://moboy.blogspot.com/2005/11/grace-and-dolls-my-wife-and-i-went-to.html</a><br />
&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://moboy.blogspot.com" TITLE="mrkhmusic at yahoo dot com" rel="nofollow">Mark Hansen</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eric Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it would be interesting to find out what the punk audience thought of the film, and more specifically, what they think of Arthur. I read an interesting review in the paper that amazingly mentioned the religious aspects of the film twice and then only briefly. The whole thing focused on the band and the reunion. It made me wonder if that&#039;s the way the film is looked at by most people - as a documentary about the reunion of a punk band, with some weird Mormon stuff in the background. Unfortunate, because that perspective is missing a lot. On the other hand, it may be a good thing from a commercial standpoint, if people see what they want to see. &#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://motleyvision.blogspot.com/2005/11/review-new-york-doll.html&quot; TITLE=&quot;cratchit at gmail dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eric Russell&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be interesting to find out what the punk audience thought of the film, and more specifically, what they think of Arthur. I read an interesting review in the paper that amazingly mentioned the religious aspects of the film twice and then only briefly. The whole thing focused on the band and the reunion. It made me wonder if that&#8217;s the way the film is looked at by most people &#8211; as a documentary about the reunion of a punk band, with some weird Mormon stuff in the background. Unfortunate, because that perspective is missing a lot. On the other hand, it may be a good thing from a commercial standpoint, if people see what they want to see. &#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://motleyvision.blogspot.com/2005/11/review-new-york-doll.html" TITLE="cratchit at gmail dot com" rel="nofollow">Eric Russell</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key moment for me is when Arthur is getting teased about being Mormon in the dressing room.  The way he is teased and the way he dutifully did his best to make a stand is just so universal.  That was the moment where I really felt that this film had something to say very specific to the Mormon experience.&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://motleyvision.blogspot.com/2005/11/review-new-york-doll.html&quot; TITLE=&quot;brianngibson at gmail dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Brian G&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key moment for me is when Arthur is getting teased about being Mormon in the dressing room.  The way he is teased and the way he dutifully did his best to make a stand is just so universal.  That was the moment where I really felt that this film had something to say very specific to the Mormon experience.&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://motleyvision.blogspot.com/2005/11/review-new-york-doll.html" TITLE="brianngibson at gmail dot com" rel="nofollow">Brian G</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rusty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WM,
This is indeed a fantastic film. It was more spiritual/touching than any previous &quot;Mormon&quot; movie I have seen. Fantastic film.&#160;

&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;A&gt;&lt;/A&gt;Posted by&lt;A&gt;&lt;B&gt; &lt;/B&gt;&lt;/A&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.nine-moons.com&quot; TITLE=&quot;rusty at rustyclifton dot com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rusty&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WM,<br />
This is indeed a fantastic film. It was more spiritual/touching than any previous &#8220;Mormon&#8221; movie I have seen. Fantastic film.&#160;</p>
<p><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.nine-moons.com" TITLE="rusty at rustyclifton dot com" rel="nofollow">Rusty</a></p>
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